Is Linking from owned Sites good?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by Blogspotter, Sep 6, 2006.

  1. #1
    If one has about 40-50 websites, will interlinking to and from each site be SEO value less?

    1) If the sites were hosted with the same hosting service, google can check IP.
    2) But if all the sites are say, blogspot, does google check, from which IP the blogs are getting updated from?

    I have many sites and I don't want to get penalised by google, so I need the clarifications.
     
    Blogspotter, Sep 6, 2006 IP
  2. jdevalk

    jdevalk Active Member

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    #2
    Re 1: true.
    Re 2: i highly doubt that.

    However, if you interlink all of them, i don't think you'll benefit as much as when you link a lot of them to 1 or 2. But the best thing to do would be to link to other sites you own that are on the same or a related topic, but not to completely different sites. A link to a car site from a bathing suit site won't help much :)
     
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  3. Providence

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    #3
    In-bound links with related topic/subject from owned sites with different IPs would help.
     
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    how about links from a directory(you own) to other sites you own?
     
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  5. Blogspotter

    Blogspotter Notable Member

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    Thanks.. I also did doubt that. I have seen PR6 sites, genuine ecommerce sites creating the PR by getting links from some 300+ blogspot blogs. Surprisingly all blogspot post linked to some internal page of the site on the same month....and since the site is a million dollar site, I am sure they used some pro SEO consultant...

    SO google doesn't check after all..
     
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  6. dcristo

    dcristo Illustrious Member

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    #6
    Even related sites on same IP help to some degree, IMO.
     
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    1)yes
    2) not, but a very low effect,
     
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    I agree link to one to two, or just link to common trait sites:cool:
     
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  9. mjewel

    mjewel Prominent Member

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    Cross linking your own sites to gain in SERPS goes against googles ranking intent of natual "votes" (links) to a site must mean it has some value. An owner having sites linking to each other in not a true, unbiased "vote". Google's patent talks about ignoring or discounts any link from the same host and checking domain ownership to see linked sites share common ownership. They are very aware of people who have hosting accounts with unlimited domains and who have linked them to each other.

    If the crosslink makes sense, I would do it - but don't expect google to count it for SERPS. If you are talking about having a bunch of sites all crosslinking to gain backlinks, then I wouldn't do it - or at least use different hosts. Crosslinking is nothing new and too many links (and only google knows the number) could run the risk of looking like a link farm which could get your sites penalized.

    I'm sure sites like blogspot are treated differently, but I'm sure google is aware of potential abuse. There have been several members who have had most of their sites deleted - and I'm sure the IP address could have played a role. I wouldn't put it past google from using various data to weed out attempted artificial SERPS. There was recently some discussion about the use of Google Analytics data too.
     
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  10. webengtech

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    Interlinkign your sites is very dangerous and personally I stay completely away from it. For example the ebook from a little while ago by michael campbell called revenge of the mininet is a great book, however google is clear that if you are faking your page rank you are violating thier terms. So if you unintentionally look to google like you are doing that and they can penalize you somehow.. why do it.

    Guys like jeff johnson are huge into that but he also has multiple corporations which each use there own registrar and servers and so on so none look like there is any relationship.

    Just my opinion but stay away from it.

    No to contradict myself... what i do love to do is post a temporary link om some of my sites for a couple days jsut to help get more spider activity to the sites. I link either to the index or the sitemap (html version) but only keep the links there for a couple days.
     
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  11. Searchnology.com

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    No harm in linking all your sites. There is no logical reason for Google to hinder free enterprise. What if you sell some sites and the new owner remains on the same hosting service? Would they ban you then? Don't think so. I echo everyone else in that you will get more lift if the content for the sites are related.
     
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    On second thought I could be wrong and Google could wax your a** for doing this. :)

    Seriously, you can just contact them for their input on this if you are worried. Funny how everyone treats Google like the "Wizard of Oz" and are hesitant to approach them or draw attention to themselves. (Granted they can be rather unresponsive and somewhat arrogant)

    .......Damn!! now I'm getting banned.
     
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  13. Blogspotter

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    My question was How google checks the IP... In case of blogspot, does google ever checks the IP from which you access your blogger account?

    In case of same HOST IP's it is simple. It has been reported that google even discounts genuine natural links just because both websites are hosted on same server, albeit by different owners.

    So Blogger is Better eh!! I am cultivating some blogspot domains...
     
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  14. starke

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    So here's a question... if someone had a fashion company, and then opened a fashion forum... would having these sites interlinked hurt.

    For one, let's assume that the fashion forum gets some traffic and threads going, wouldn't that mean that there might be a great increase in incoming links to the fashion site that might be picked up as well... thus treated negatively?
     
    starke, Sep 7, 2006 IP
  15. debunked

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    I have found no issue with cross-linking sites, but I would be careful and make sure it is done as "natural" as possible. Link the sites with the most similarities or 1 way links around the sites, but don't just copy and paste all links across all sites.
     
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    Yeah, I see what you are saying that you don't want to go too overboard... at the same time... growing links too fast seems to cause a 'potential' penalty...

    Hmmm... the 1 way link scheme seems like a very cool idea... in essence, you could probably, using the previous example of 50 sites presumably similar content, link each site to 5 or so, still never having any sites totally interlinked...

    Most avg sites on Google have under 200 links, not for highly competative keywords like 'mortgage', but you could carve out a realy nice niche manufacturing say 30-40 links by cross linking.
     
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    R-ampage Banned

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  18. Blogspotter

    Blogspotter Notable Member

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    What I have been looking for. Actually I read a thread one of the many SEO blogs about this. Now that Matt Cutts have pronounced it.. ahmmmmm.. Here I go!!!!
     
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  19. Blogspotter

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    Busy Working on that :D
     
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  20. starke

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    Personally, I've seen some benefit from crosslinking on other sites that I've watched... let me know if you see any results blogspotter...
     
    starke, Sep 8, 2006 IP