Is LibertyReserve A Scam Company For Sure ??? Beware This story is about my client: I make this thread because, my client got a disaster in using Liberty Reserve. This is the chronological: 1. My client wanted to withdraw his money from a broker via LR 2. Then he made an account two days ago. 3. He had made the Liberty Reserve account, and change the password using virtual keyboard. 4. FYI, he uses original windows, and original antivirus kaspersky, he never uses or joins any HYIP before, he had just made his Liberty Reserve / LR account two days, ago. 5. He withdrew 1000 usd from broker to his LR account then the next day, 8570 usd , so the total 9570 6, Suddenly, when he checked again his money in the LR, everything is gone, and it was written in the history there are 2 unknown transaction with SCI label, my client never joins any HYIP before and never use LR before, and just made LR account 2 days ago, 7. My client, and me try to contact LR CS two days, ago, but the answer is not satisfying, and my client got email from LR without explaining who are the owner of two accounts. and they just explain ing about virus in the computer etc.... and bla bla bla 8. Now, i'm writing this thread, so that all member can be aware that there are 2 possibilities: - there are LR "INSIDER" who take advantage, or abuse clients money - there are broker "insider" (i don't think it is, because i use this broker , few years, and no problem with it ) Please share your personal experience, or may be you know contacts that can handle this matter, thank you
No, my client account was made two days ago, and after that he used for withdrawal, the computer is fully protected, i was suspicious about LR scamming its clients randomly, this is the chronological of the case with the screen shots that may help you to analyze this case: if you can analyze it, it will be better, so that everybody will be allert
FYI, my client is from, indonesia, but there is IP from PERU, accessed his account just after he signed up the account in LR, what a strange, could it be LR Insider Job?
first picture clearly shows that some one from INDIA log in the account . he enter the main account and transfer the funds from site . transaction time and his log out time is same. transaction done from INDIA . i am 200% sure with the help of your all screenshot . then again some one from Indonesia log in the account .
Actually Liberty Reserve Has Security Vulnerabilities, Thats why Most Of The LR Accounts Get Hacked Everyday. So, Its not a Strange thing that money in your account Suddenly Disappears.
Thank you for your response and help, we are also trying to report this case to ic3.gov (even though maybe not be responded - because i have friend who reported a case but not be responded), if LR doesn't give us any clarity of the 2 transaction that were executed WITHOUT my client approval/authorization. Please also dig out these two following IP from PERU and INDIA that were the suspect of the stealing money from LR. Please read through the following chronological order or the sequence of the case: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ My Client wanted to withdraw money from broker to LR (Liberty Reserve) account, so he decided to open LR (Liberty Reserve) account, this is the chronological order or the sequence of his transactions: 1. THE REGISTRATION DAY: My client opened/registered LR account on the 11 th of March 2013 (03/11/2013) from 08:16 a.m to 09:29 a.m. LR time). He used his personal computer that is protected by original kaspersky. And the feature on his LR account that is IP Security was enabled. After the account opened, he withdrew $1,000 from his broker to LR account and the money arrived to his account at the same day (03/11/2013) at 08:59 a.m (LR time) VICTIM's IP: General IP Information IP: 39.210.125.113 Decimal: 668106097 Hostname: 39.210.125.113 ISP: Telkomsel Organization: Telkomsel Services: None detected Type: Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Indonesia id flag State/Region: Kepulauan Bangka Belitung City: Mulia Latitude: -2.3333 (2° 19′ 59.88″ S) Longitude: 106.2667 (106° 16′ 0.12″ E) ---------------------------------- 2. My client accessed his account from other city, because he had something to do in that city/office task he accessed on the same day of registration, that is on th 11 th of March 2013 (03/11/2013) from 11.06 a.m to 11.09 am (LR time) with the following IP address (he used his smart phone) VICTIM's IP General IP Information IP: 39.218.155.0 Decimal: 668637952 Hostname: 39.218.155.0 ISP: Telkomsel Organization: Telkomsel Services: None detected Type: Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Indonesia id flag State/Region: Kepulauan Bangka Belitung City: Mulia Latitude: -2.3333 (2° 19′ 59.88″ S) Longitude: 106.2667 (106° 16′ 0.12″ E) THE PICTURE 1: ------------------------------------ 3. THE DOOM DAY: On the next day, on the 12 th of March 2013 (03/12/2013) at 08:38 a.m. (LR time). The LR account was accessed with IP adress from PERU (the culprit), and also able to verify the IP address (usually LR will send PIN if the account is accessed from different IP) without the VICTIM's concern/notice. The THIEF needed only 2 minutes to stole/wiped out the money from the VICTIM account. from 08:38 a.m. to 08:40 a.m. (LR time) This is the CULPRIT/suspected CRIMINAL IP from PERU. General IP Information IP: 190.118.22.156 Decimal: 3195410076 Hostname: 190.118.22.156 ISP: Telmex Peru S.A. Organization: Telmex Peru S.A. Services: None detected Type: Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Peru pe flag State/Region: Lima City: Lima Latitude: -12.05 (12° 3′ 0.00″ S) Longitude: -77.05 (77° 2′ 60.00″ W) -------------------------------------- 4. At the same day too (03/11/2013) my client's account was accessed by two different IPs within 6 Minutes (please look at the picture /attachment) this is little bit strange (if you could analyze this please give your analysis) THE PICTURE 1: VICTIM's IP: (accessed LR account at 08:41 then 08:42 then 08:43 then 08:44) General IP Information IP: 139.194.72.184 Decimal: 2344765624 Hostname: fm-dyn-139-194-72-184.fast.net.id ISP: PT. First Media,Tbk Organization: PT. First Media,Tbk Services: None detected Type: Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Indonesia id flag State/Region: Jawa Barat City: Tangerang Latitude: -6.1781 (6° 10′ 41.16″ S) Longitude: 106.63 (106° 37′ 48.00″ E) THIEF IP: (accessed LR account from 08:38 then 08:40 then 08:42 then 08:43) --- There was overlapping 2 different IPs accesses in the following minutes: 08:40 to 08:42 === in which 08:40 (IP from PERU/the suspected culprit) 08:41 === (IP from Indonesia/the victim) then 08:42 (IP from PERU/the suspected culprit) --- There were 2 different IPs accessed the victim's LR account at the same time: 08:42 and 08:43 (accessed by 2 different IPs from PERU (CULPRIT) and Indonesia (Victim) ) CULPRIT's IP General IP Information IP: 190.118.22.156 Decimal: 3195410076 Hostname: 190.118.22.156 ISP: Telmex Peru S.A. Organization: Telmex Peru S.A. Services: None detected Type: Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Peru pe flag State/Region: Lima City: Lima Latitude: -12.05 (12° 3′ 0.00″ S) Longitude: -77.05 (77° 2′ 60.00″ W) ------------------------------------ 5. Withdrawal for the second time: my client did the second withdrawal $8,573 and the thief stole/wiped out right away This account was accessed from victim IP, on the 12 th of March 2013 (03/12/2013) from 09:42 a.m to 10:34 a.m. (LR time) the money/fund from the broker arrived at 12:56 on the 12 th of march 2013 (03/12/2013)--- the victim didn't know the money had arrived until, he knew that his money was stolen. and the money was stolen by the thief at 15:15 (03/12/2013) ------------------------------------ 6. Unauthorized Access from IP from INDIA (see the picture) and also another overlapping access from 2 different IPs from 2 different places/country (thief IP and also the victim IP) The following two IPs is overlapping each other, in accessing the LR account. Please look at the picture: THE PICTURE 2 : After the money from the broker arrived at: 12:56 (LR time) then few hours later 15:15 the money was stolen by someone with IP adress from INDIA with the following timeline: (03/12/2013) === 09:42 -to- 10:34 was accessed from victim IP (139.194.72.184 - Indonesia) ------> this can be the thief who monitored the victim LR === 15:13 -to- 15:14 was accessed by 2 different IPs at the same time/overlapping that is from the THIEF IP (117.240.178.66 - India) and from victim"s IP (122.200.149.66 -- Indonesia) ------> this is the second IP that is different from the culprit 1st IP ------> the first is from PERU and this second from INDIA === 15:15 THIS IS THE OVERLAPPING TIME between 2 different IP address from different country. ------> Both IPs (117.240.178.66 (the culprit from india) & 139.194.72.184 (the victim from Indonesia) accessed the LR account at the same time, and also at that time the money in LR (Liberty Reserve) was also wiped out/stolen. THE PICTURE 2: SUSPECTED CULPRIT IP General IP Information IP: 117.240.178.66 Decimal: 1978708546 Hostname: 117.240.178.66 ISP: BSNL Organization: BSNL Services: Confirmed proxy server Type: Broadband Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: India in flag State/Region: Uttar Pradesh City: Noida Latitude: 28.57 (28° 34′ 12.00″ N) Longitude: 77.32 (77° 19′ 12.00″ E) VICTIM IP General IP Information IP: 122.200.149.66 Decimal: 2059965762 Hostname: 122.200.149.66 ISP: Pt Qiandra Information Technology Organization: Pt Qiandra Information Technology Services: None detected Type: Broadband Assignment: Static IP Blacklist: Geolocation Information Country: Indonesia id flag State/Region: Jakarta Raya City: Jakarta Latitude: -6.1744 (6° 10′ 27.84″ S) Longitude: 106.8294 (106° 49′ 45.84″ E) ---------------------- 7. The VICTIM reported that his account was wiped out/stolen by somebody from somewhere THE PICTURE 3: ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Those were the chronological of the case, if you can analyze well, please give your comment, so that we can find the CULPRIT or at least warning other people about this case, before another case happen in the future. Thank you
beware of LR advertisements, sometimes, the hacker also advertise LR in the google ads/search, with the same website, but without "http(s)"
LR is not a scam but this is a processor that scammers will use because there is nothing the buyer can do once a purchase has been made. According to their policy they offer no chargebacks. I had to learn the hard way by paying a scammer through LR. I will never use that processor again.
To the topic starter: edit this thread because this company is not SCAM you nooob. you did not read their rules. payments are ireversible. i doubt they need to stole your small 200 bucks, that is not possible. Im using LR for around 7 years with good satisfaction. tens of thousands usd in transactions.