Is Koran have more accurate prediction than Bible?

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  1. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #41
    So if we give the credit of the muslims blowing everyone up in Iraq and Afghanistan to others, will muslim suicide bombers and those who intentionally kill their muslim brothers and sisters there still get the virgins?

    It's probably complicated, but inquiring infidels want to know :)
     
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  2. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #42
    Since there is no mention anywhere that "muslim suicide bombers and those who intentionally kill their muslim brothers and sisters there still get the virgins" in either the Quran or the hadith collections, such silly lies are really not worth entertaining.

    - MENJ
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #43
    What happens when we unquote the sentence structure and take it for what it really means?
     
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  4. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #44
    There is no teaching in the Quran or hadith whereby you get virgins after killing innocent people.

    - MENJ
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #45
    There are no "innocent" infidels ;)

    I like your style, inserting extra words in there!

    This would be true:

    There is no teaching in the Quran or hadith whereby you get virgins after killing innocent people.

    This would be false:

    There is no teaching in the Quran or hadith whereby you get virgins.

    Very clever!
     
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  6. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #46
    You are seeing meanings into a statement which has no hidden meanings. Both sentences above are patently false. As for where "innocent infidels" are concerned, infidels are not "innocent", only non-Muslims are.

    - MENJ

    - MENJ
     
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    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #47
    So you won't be getting any virgins then?

    What else would you like to deny?
     
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  8. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #48
    I would like to see the basis for the allegation that there will be "virgins in Paradise if people blow themselves up along with civillians". So far all you Republican nuts can do is to make claims, claims and more claims without any substantiation. I should like to point out that the Bible has more terrorism and violence than the Qur'an does, perhaps you need to be reminded of that fact when I post the verses here?

    - MENJ
     
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  9. Arnie

    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #49
    It is extraordinary.

    To see Islam growing fast in a free country like the USA despite all this hate and anti-Muslim propaganda means a lot to us. It is also is an insult to the main religion in USA, they are free to choose whatever religion or leave Islam freely but still more and more new converts are emerging in the US and commited themselves to Islam.

    Muslims in Minnesota
    Sep 21st 2006
    From The Economist print edition

    ON SEPTEMBER 8th ground was broken for the new Masjid An-Nur mosque in north Minneapolis, from which the first minaret seen in Minnesota will pierce the prairie sky. A few days later one of the mosque's more famous worshipers, Keith Ellison, won the state's Democratic primary in the deeply Democratic 5th District. In so doing, Mr Ellison will almost certainly become America's first Muslim congressman, as well as the first black to represent anywhere in Minnesota.

    Christianity has lost the race.


    According to your sig your're a loser and lier and Christian bashing.
    Now Mr. victim where's your sting?
     
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  10. Ibn Juferi

    Ibn Juferi Prominent Member

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    #50
    Pot calling the kettle black. I guess you don't like it when a Muslim turns the tables upon you, huh?

    - MENJ
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #51
    Because it doesn't happen.

    God said: "I have prepaired a full table in front of the enemy for you" :)
     
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  12. Ibn Juferi

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    #52
    Ah, a challenge. I like that. You will soon learn though. You will learn.

    - MENJ
     
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    #53
    A threat?
    Beware of delusion which makes suicide bombers when all hope is gone due to your islamic systems.
     
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  14. Ibn Juferi

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    #54
    Its always interesting to see the Crusader mind at work.

    - MENJ
     
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    #55
    The MUSLIMS INVADED EUROPE, from Spain, to the Ottomans in Serbia. The crusades were a UNITED effort to REPEL the Muslim INVADERS.

    Rather than wait for each european country to be invaded one by one, they all banded together to fight the evil Muslims!

    Though I'm sure your malaysian clerics have rewritten that part of history too. Oh you poor muslims, I mean who ever did Muslims kill without provocation? Like 3,000 americans?

    Islam means "to submit" their goal is world domination, a caliphate. Stop spreading your lies.
     
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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    #56
    The truth is the truth is the truth - as Gertrud Stein would say ( a rose is a rose is a rose)
     
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    #57
    Well when those same invaders reached Jerusalem, they slaughtered all its inhabitants -- Muslims, Jews and non-Catholic Christians were massacred on a bloody scale that in today's terms, it would be called "genocide".

    Doesn't sound like people coming to rescue other people, does it?

    - MENJ
     
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    #58
    That's not true. They did NOT. That is MORE MUSLIM LIES. Also if Christians DO kill innocents it is CONTRARY to Jesus' message.

    If Muslims kill infidels it is ENCOURAGED by Mohammad's message.


    Slay the infidels wherever you find them, and take them captives and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush. (Koran 9:5)

    Infidels should be murdered or crucified or their hands and their feet should be cut off on opposite sides. (Koran 5:33)

    Even BEHEADING those infidel hostages is SPECIFICALLY condoned in the Qu'Ran.

    I will instill terror into the hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their finger tips of them. (Koran 8:12)
     
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    #59
    Sounds familar to me when thinking about Somalia. Though a muslim genocide on Christians and other non-muslim which goes into millions, and no single muslim protest.
     
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  20. Ibn Juferi

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    #60
    Its "not true" and they "did not"? LOL. Now read the following quotation from YOUR OWN Western sources:

    (Philip Schaff, History of the Christian Church, Volume V, Chapter 7 )

    - MENJ
     
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