Save yourself some work there fella! I have read your statements before. It takes wider reading and also putting Bible verses into context to get a clearer understanding of them. I have stated before that anyone can pull out one verse from the Bible and say "contradiction...contradiction!!" However, when doing more research and reading the whole chapter puts you in the picture better. On the other hand, it's amazing how many base their entire faith on John 1:1 yet a close look at the Greek transcripts clearly shows the truth. Translation plays a big part in getting the clear picture. If you can't get the translation right, then how are you going to get the context right? Col
May jesus or GOD as we all know him bless u all lol. I have given solid proof in the bible where jesus himself calls himself god. Now please try to twist this 100% fact up if u can. All i know is THE TRUTH SHALL SET YOU FREE. I love u guys, im sure i will see u all in church one day especially gem rocker and cheap seo services. Your both not very good in research but u have good hearts. A big hug for you 2 who i know will be my fellow christians one day May the almight god jesus bless you forever. Sorry cheap, your 100% wrong for true understanding of the translations you need to go way back to the original aramiac to fully understand. Do you have any understand of teh aramiac language that jesus spoke. Please stop bsing everyone. A plain comeback answer wont do it. Show me the proof. IAM is enough. If you know anything about the ancient times of teh hebrews u will know the signifigance of words I AM. there is no arguing this. Now please have guts enough to state ur religious beliefs, or maybe ur just good enough to deceive with ur bs words. Again i ask what do u believe in?
What's this? People of the same faith arguing amongst themselves as to what their dogma instructs them to think? How so very true to religious form. Why not start a war over it?
Oh boy. I am out of this one. Your theories don't make sense yet again. This is exactly what I meant when I mentioned pulling a few lines out of context. I ain't going to argue with you pingpong. Enjoy arguing with others. That's not what I am here for. I am not here to attack you or prove you wrong. The Bible is the measuring stick I use and anyone that compares the translation you use with the Greek transcripts can clearly see it is inaccurate. Also, this is the 2nd time you have called the NWT a Jehovah's Witness Bible. It's not OUR Bible. It was not even translated by Witnesses. However, after careful consideration and analysis, we have deemed it the most accurate. Also, this is not to say we can't teach people what the Bible really teaches using other translations. We certainly can! My wife studied using no less than 5 different translations (just to be sure!) and using external literature so to back up what was being taught. So, save yourself some wasted time. This is my last comment on the matter because prior discussions have not led anywhere for either of us (that goes for st0x as well!). Good day and may you go well in whatever you are doing. Col
Stox we are not even close to being of the same faith. Jehovas witness are not christians. Not to be rude but they always claim this. To be christian you must believe that jesus is our lord and savior and is also god in the trinity. When did jehovas witnesses pop up? In teh 1800's, some dude decided he was to become the authority on the bible. A big joke. They are very clever and never ever tell u at the beginning that they truely believe that jesus isnt god the father . They lure u in and then try to spring it on u later. That to me is deception. Christianity doesnt do this, Hinduism doesnt do this, and islam doesnt mask their beliefs till later even. Only the jehovas witnesses. Now in the bible who do they speak about when they speak about the deceiver? What was his name again? Sorry cheapseo services but your quoting the bible out of context 100%, for u to really know the bible u must also know its history, not just some 19th century guy who even deceived his own people by making them wait for year for the messiah to come in teh 1800's and didnt even show up. Everyone here knows my beliefs , i dont hide in the shade. If i pulled a few lines out of context please show me where and how. blood transfusions save lives and all christians believe this
OK...I am stepping back in because you are telling lies here. Utter rubbish. Just last Wednesday I spoke to a man for the first time and I told him "Jesus is the Son of God according to the Bible" and showed him Matthew 16:16. I know thousands of other witnesses that do the same. It's just pure rubbish you are talking. How on earth can you say this? We follow his teachings. To be a Christian is to "follow Christ". This is exactly what we do. Jesus led a fantastic example for us to follow. Here's the difference. You can't (for the life you) sit and discuss patiently and peaceably with someone about these matters without pointing fingers and making accusatory statements. This is the very reason why I pull out of these discussions. Because it is the same type of stuff that causes fights and wars. I don't want to fight or war with anyone. When God steps in he says "lift your heads and stand erect. Vengeance is mine. I will repay". Now this is my last comment on the matter. Good day!
Isaiah 7:14 Therefore the Lord himself will give you [a] a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and will call him Immanuel. [c] Footnotes: Isaiah 7:14 The Hebrew is plural. Isaiah 7:14 Masoretic Text; Dead Sea Scrolls and he or and they Isaiah 7:14 Immanuel means God with us . Isiah even says this. So far all u can come up with is" now your telling lies" and your taking it out of context. Whene jesus says I AM (meaning he is GOD THE FATHER, what can u say. How can u twist this around. God does say that veneance is his but i think ur talking about deceipt. Im quoting straight from the bible. If you cant prove this wrong that is your problem not mine. Did i strike a chord when i said most jw's dont spill the beans straight out front Truth can sometimes come out suddenly but the truth is the truth, u cant sugar coat it. No need to attack my friend, just prove my quotes wrong that are straight from the bible. I wonder if anyone knows the names of the committe that heads the translation of their bible. Can we say HIDDEN?
He says many times he is god and i just showed in many versus, now here there come. Please go and read the bible, study its bible history then come back and comment. One line comments arent going to sway many viewers. May jesus our god bless you Aine. Your name means eye in arabic, marhaba
Emmanuelle means god with us. wait.... maybe im taking this passage out of context. If so can someone tell me how? Oh you cant lol. Even in mathew it says this, in isiah it says this. This is indisputable. You cant argue the fact that emmanuelle means god with us. This is how Matthew quotes it: All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: "The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel" --which means, "God with us."(Mat.1:22-23).
Remember the former things of old: for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like me, Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure: Isaiah 46:9-10
In the name of the father, the son, and the holy spirit Amen. With god anything is possible and if he wants to be 3 in one he can be 3 in one. Now tell me this is impossible and i will tell u that the go du believe in cant do all things. God bless u lol, or i can say jesus bless you. Same thing Sorry but i call my dad father every day. Its not my fault that you dont know how properly read the bible in perspective So u dont call your dad father? wow, please enlighten me further The more u answer the easier it gets for me Please keep it up. Sorry but i gotta go, i got an early morning blood transfusion tomorrow(oops just kiddin lol)
LOL. Pingpong. May be Im diverting. But I need to ask you. You think god is so helpless that he himself born in this world? Jesus in his life felt hunger, anger, pain everything just like we humans do. You still think he is god? God sent so many prophets to the world. For some prophets He gave more powers and for some prophets He gave less. Do you think just because God gave more power to Jesus, He will accept jesus as his son, or Jesus will become God himself? If you had learnt the history from Adam to Jesus, you will understand that God sent so many prophets to tell the same thing to the world, that is He is the only God.
You didnt read the article in full, they are taking about Islamic beliefs and how they conflict with the bible.
Yes i read the article in full, but arguing islamic beliefs in jesus isnt a problem. The problem is bringing your faith in the open which most muslims arent afraid of doing. The jw's however most of the times wont spring that little nugget on you till later(that jesus and god arent the same person and being). I know as we have had many jw's come to our door. As far as my rebuttals, they are facts. Notice how he keeps saying that they are read out of context yet cant prove how. As i said before when there is a committee made in secret that wont name themselves(the committee that translates their bible), you start to think back to who stays in secret(darkness and away from the light). Islamic beliefs are straight cut and simple, they basically tell u what they believe in and u tell them what u believe in, but to quote out of the bible things that are blatantly wrong is another thing. And i say again to any jw if u want to know the true and full bible to debate and understand, you must know aramiac and not just greek. case closed
So that everything (redemption) could be fulfilled God has to come in the form of a man as Jesus Chist. Do you think that someone that didint have divine powers could save humankind?