No one claims that he is God? You don't know much about Christians I think. You think we should all hold hands, put up a big smile and march down the road together instead of debating these issues don't you?
That's pretty narrow thinking that either you want to sit about debating whether Jesus was a God or just his son... or you want to ignore debate. Why not? Peace across humankind is a beautiful notion. What's so important about it though? You claim the bible says Jesus wasn't God. So? It says he sacrificed himself for mankind's sins, surely that's more important? If I remember correctly, I was taught at school that Christian generally believe Jesus to be the Son of God and was God in flesh, or something. All religious texts are strange and often contradictory, but that's nothing new. You're coming at this rather late. Why is celebration of positivity and goodness seldom seen in this forum?
It's very important, but that's not something I don't expect you to understand. This is the Politics and Religion section, so it's not against the rules, and it's not uncommon to see these kind of threads either, so all I can is that if you don't like this thread, don't come here.
No need to be defensive. I didn't say you're violating any rules but I am free to question your questions. Why don't you explain why it's important, I get the feeling I'm not the only one who "doesn't understand". Also, you quoted me just before I revised my post
Allah is the only god. Jesus(Isaiah) was one of the prophets. And Jesus is not son of god. He had no father doesn't mean god his is father.
Jeehan, you put "Isaiah" in the parenthesis, Isaiah and Jesus are not the same person. Very good point about Jesus not being the son of God. Just because he didn't have a father, doesn't mean his father must have been God, Adam had no father and no mother, but he's not perceived to be God.
I assume your basis of proof is taken from text which has been not only been translated through many different languages but also interpreted by many different editors, at near 2000 years ago? "You got a strong case there, kid"
Just thought I'd point out that it's possibly the poorest source of evidence available and you're using it to prove Jebus wasn't God. J'sayin'
What makes you think he's not all knowing? According to the bible he knew about his betrayal and death before hand.
OK this is from my King James version: Hmm.. can't really see how this is proof he isn't all knowing. Jesus' temptation by the devil, if anything, shows that God and Jesus are separate, as in chapter 11:
Sorry, I got the wrong reference. Here is the passage: “No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son (Jesus), but only the Father (God). As it was in the days of Noah, so it will be at the coming of the Son of Man.†(Matthew. 24:36-37) Jesus doesn't know the hour, means he is not all-knowing, which means he cannot be God.
Interesting point. Although, there are tonnes of inconsistencies, I'm sure you'll be able to find another passage that mentions Jesus being one with God or something.
While many of us know this, there are many Christians who don't, the idea is get them out of blind following mode.
One can not possibly understand God who does not understand when the moment of Triumph occurs as for the Final Judgment to be rendered....and was known by the Saint. In the case of Noah who with his death would have been the "last" remaining Follower on earth to fall - his death (that moment)would have brought about Armageddon (the Triumph of Evil) for the lost souls remaining as their Final Judgment. What actually occurred, known by True believers the Edenist was a return by God preemptive of Noah's death to bring about the Judgment for those deserving punishment beforehand that allowed with Noah still alive for Mankind another chance for Remission.