Is Jesus Really God?

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  1. The End

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  2. eurogal

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    #22
    It is not written anywhere that jesus is God.all the bible says is God the father,the son and the holy spirit.Jesus was sent on earth by the father to come and deliver mankind so he can not be God.
     
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  3. IsraeI

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    #24
    The title on that videos says: "A Perfect Example Of What Happens When One Speaks Without Knowledge"

    The caller wanted to confuse the "preacher" and he succeeded. Both of them though lack understanding of what Divine Love, Wisdom and Truth is about. IMO It is a useless discussion that gives you nothing. It is like one of them is trying to teach college math which he doesn't know at all and a guy who knew how to put 2 and 2 together and who decided to make fun of the "fake teacher/professor."
    I saw no Divine Wisdom in that discussion.
     
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    securesite Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Oh mannnnnnnn. No Jesus is not god but his SON! Muhammad was some guy that went into a gave a supposedly saw Gabriel..... Blahhh
     
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  6. IsraeI

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    #26
    Nobody believes Jesus is God? Where are those who believers in the trinity?
     
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    #27
    Of course Jesus was God, but you know that already. Now that I've agreed he was God, just as YOU and I are God, what's the next stage of your question?
     
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  8. IsraeI

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    #28
    Do you believe in the bible? Particularly the Gospel of Mark?
     
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    #29
    What is this that is disturbing to you in the Gospel of Mark?
     
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    #30
    Actually I found something great:

    "Jesus Forgives and Heals a Paralyzed Man
    1 A few days later, when Jesus again entered Capernaum, the people heard that he had come home. 2 They gathered in such large numbers that there was no room left, not even outside the door, and he preached the word to them. 3 Some men came, bringing to him a paralyzed man, carried by four of them. 4 Since they could not get him to Jesus because of the crowd, they made an opening in the roof above Jesus by digging through it and then lowered the mat the man was lying on. 5 When Jesus saw their faith, he said to the paralyzed man, “Son, your sins are forgiven.”
    6 Now some teachers of the law were sitting there, thinking to themselves, 7 “Why does this fellow talk like that? He’s blaspheming! Who can forgive sins but God alone?”

    8 Immediately Jesus knew in his spirit that this was what they were thinking in their hearts, and he said to them, “Why are you thinking these things? 9 Which is easier: to say to this paralyzed man, ‘Your sins are forgiven,’ or to say, ‘Get up, take your mat and walk’? 10 But I want you to know that the Son of Man has authority on earth to forgive sins.” So he said to the man, 11 “I tell you, get up, take your mat and go home.” 12 He got up, took his mat and walked out in full view of them all. This amazed everyone and they praised God, saying, “We have never seen anything like this!”

    http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Mark+2&version=NIV
     
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  11. IsraeI

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    #31
    Many things in disturb me in the bible, let alone the Gospel of Mark, but let's stick to the topic shall we?

    I know you don't believe that Jesus is God, so my question in post #1 does not have to be answered by you. It's specifically for Christians that believe Jesus is God.
     
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    #32
    Is Jesus omniscient?
     
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    #33
    this is the wikipedia definition of this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Omniscience

    here is a quote from the link:

    "There is a distinction between:
    inherent omniscience - the ability to know anything that one chooses to know and can be known.
    total omniscience - actually knowing everything that can be known.[citation needed]
    Some modern theologians argue that God's omniscience is inherent rather than total, and that God chooses to limit his omniscience in order to preserve the freewill and dignity of his creatures.[3] Certain theologians of the 16th Century,[who?] comfortable with the definition of God as being omniscient in the total sense, in order for worthy beings' abilities to choose freely, embraced the doctrine of predestination."

    the last line of this quote says this:

    "[3] Certain theologians of the 16th Century,[who?] comfortable with the definition of God as being omniscient in the total sense, in order for worthy beings' abilities to choose freely, embraced the doctrine of predestination."

    and the last word in wikipedia links to this:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination
     
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  14. Warner

    Warner Active Member

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    #34
    Definitely Jesus was not a God, he was his son like we are all and wanted to show us that he is a real and simple man and his love to the father is usual and anybody can do it personally and sincerely. But people did a big mistake and was cheated transformed his learning into religion and made an idol from Jesus.
     
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  15. IsraeI

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    #35
    Okay.

    We shall use "All-knowing".

    To Christians: Is Jesus All-knowing?
     
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    #36
    Why is there even a religious section on Digital Point? That's it! I'm calling Chuck Norris to get rid of this section.
     
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    #37
    Israel, what do you suppose to interject once you're informed whether Jesus is believed to be all-knowing or not?
     
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    #38
    Prove from their own book that he is not.

    And if he is not All-knowing then he is not God., because God is All-knowing.

    Is there something wrong with that?
     
    Last edited: Jul 8, 2011
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    #39

    Not at all, good luck and a simple task but a little odd coming from someone who sees no flaws in his own beliefs that are based on similar writings and similarly refuted.

    As why not add distinction to your own beliefs for their improvement while doing so for others? Reaching someday a true Apex than what is presently stale without Remission.
     
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    #40
    A fatal flaw becomes apparent when no-one claims that he is God... or cares. I suppose real Christians care about his teachings, not the daft insignificances.
     
    BRUm, Jul 8, 2011 IP