Is Jesus Really God?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by IsraeI, Jul 3, 2011.

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    The Gospel of Mark, Chapter 13:

    "No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son (Jesus), but only the Father."

    The passage above clearly suggests that Jesus was not all knowing, because he doesn't know the "hour".

    Also notice he said "only the Father", meaning only the Father knows the hour, which totally excludes him (Jesus) from being omniscient.

    If God is omniscient, then how can Jesus be God?
     
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  2. TheMightOfLove

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    #2
    Who said Jesus was God?
    Jesus never said "I am God."
    His disciples never preached Jesus was God, it is only some priests that say so, but that's their own interpretation of the New Testament. And that kind of interpretation is an example of how human logic can lead others into delusions.

    Jesus - the manifestation of God's Love yes.

    It is true that only God is all knowing. Not even the greatest spiritual masters like Jesus are all knowing. Jesus was doing the Will of His (Our) Father.
     
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  3. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #3
    Some Christians will disagree with you.
     
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    #4
    So, what? They are free to agree or disagree.
     
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    #5

    No one knows about that day or hour, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son (Jesus), but only the Father.

    Obviously Mark did not know the answer and ascribes his ignorance as well for all those in succession who follow the Christian Bible (and by the thread, Islam) rather than discovering the answer which is the point / reason for the religion.

    Noah and the Ark is a simple interpolation for the "Moment of Judgment" and the answer for its occurrence.
     
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  6. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    :confused: :confused: :confused: :confused:

    Noah and the Ark has nothing to do with my question.
     
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    #7


    Your question is based on a false assumption by Mark and is then a mute point.

    Jesus did know the moment.
     
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    LiMoO Well-Known Member

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    #8
    I do not believe ever that Jesus is the God. and your link in signature about real Islam is just personal opinion.

    Why people talk about there religions and wrong it. IMHO true Muslim never talk wrong about any other religion.

    Regards,
     
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  10. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #10
    My question does not apply to you, and you know it, so please refrain from posting irrelevant things on this thread.

    The link in my signature has nothing to do with this thread.

    You have no idea what your talking about.

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    Everyone else please stop trolling.
     
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    Why ? Because you hate competition ?

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  12. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #12
    I'm a troll because I'm asking a difficult question?

    You are one of the few Christians on this forum, answer the question.
     
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    #13

    I know of nothing you are applying for other than an answer to your question.

    The above quote is inaccurate and therefore not relevant as the basis for your thread, which itself seeks a contradiction from a written script that is not an accurate depiction of Jesus to begin with.

    Jesus was a Saint and ascended to the Everlasting and someday perhaps to reach Heaven and the Creator.
     
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    #14
    no, he is not. He was just a good man and after he died, people began to think him as a god.
     
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  15. IsraeI

    IsraeI Peon

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    #15
    I know the quote is not accurate, but I didn't ask you to address the quote.

    I asked a question that clearly is for Christians who believe in the divinity of Jesus.
     
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    #16
    No you're a troll because you ignore the knowledge and try to troll Christians and attack our faith . Now simple question why would a Son know less then His Father ?
     
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    #17
    its like this, if a mango tree bear a fruit then it must be a mango fruit.
    Jesus is the son of God, then he is a God. in fact it is written in Koran that Jesus will be back.
     
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    #18
    If he existed and lived how is portrayed he is the closest to God witnessed on this planet. What's the big deal?
     
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    IsraeI Peon

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    #19
    You just have no answer to this question, and because of that I'm a troll. You are playing victim because you know what is coming for you.

    Either Jesus is omniscient or he is not? If he is, then why did Jesus in your bible say that "only the Father" knows the hour?.

    You're not answering my question.

    I will tell you the big deal after my question is answered.
     
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    BRUm Well-Known Member

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    #20
    You're not going to get any where questioning bits of religious text. We all know they're riddled with inconsistencies and fairy tale magic.
     
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