Is Jesus God? IMO no. He is the manifestation of God though..

Going by your rules.

It should read the following:

The Son of God is a God

I have a question for you. If your wife gives birth to a son. Is that son you? Also, are you your father?

 

Matthew 16:16,17

John 8:58

10:30)

*shrug*....

 

Yep. There are many things in the Bible that can be reasoned and understood. The nature of Christ and God are not in that category.

If we were expected to understand how Jesus is God and a man it would have been explained to us. But since we're simply told that is the case in many ways even in the OT, we just have to accept it.

BTW, "the angel of the Lord" refers to himself as God in the OT. There are many angels of the Lord. There is only one "the angel of the Lord."

I'm guessing SEO never did a concordance search for that.

If you're God then yes, you are your own father. God is not a man that is subject to the logical rules that govern His creation. You can't just reject what the Bible clearly states just because you don't think it's logical.

 

Actually, it isn't all that difficult to explain. Prior to His arrival about 2,000 years ago Jesus was "only" God. Then, he took on humanity without giving up deity. All the time He was on earth he was fully God and fully man.

Isaiah 7:14 reads: Therefore the Lord himself will give you a sign: The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel.

Immanuel means God with us. Not a god as the Jehovah's Witnesses believe.

 

Can a woman give birth to God?

It's absurd to ask such a question isn't it?

It is very narrow minded IMO to think that God would leave the whole Universe (it is hard to even imagine how big the Universe is), leave it, and make Himself so small to enter the body of a human being and start living like a human so as to be an example to the human race.

 

Free Stuff, so far all you have offered is your opinion. You have refused to answer the I AM statement that I mentioned yesterday, proving that Jesus is indeed God.

Anyway, if you are truly seeking there is an answer for you. So far, you have decided that if something doesn't make sense to you, you immediately reject it. You seem to be looking for excuses, not seeking the truth. I hope that I am wrong about that.

Was it silly that God chose to become man? No, in fact I Corinthians 1:25 states, "Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men, and the weakness of God is stronger than men." In other words, however God chooses to do something even if it appears foolish to man, He is still wiser than the best thing that man can cook up.

Pretty humbling statement, isn't it?

 

To my Christian brothers and sisters, may I offer some encouragement. Don't let yourselves get discouraged. Much good evidence for Jesus' Deity has been offered by many in this thread.

Jesus stated plainly (John 5:23) that His desire is "that all may honor the Son just as they honor the Father. He who does not honor the Son does not honor the Father, who sent him." Continue to share your beliefs with gracious words and hearts. But be prepared for the inevitability that, contrary to Jesus' desires, many will not choose to honor the Son "just as" they honor the Father. Rather, they will call Him things like "a good man", "a true prophet", etc. These are nice-sounding things, but they fall far short of giving Jesus the Son equal honor with the Father.

 

I will not enter a useless discussion.
I expressed my opinion and supported it with facts.
If you believe Jesus=God good. I am OK with that.
If you believe God will leave His Kingdom and get in a human body just to show an example to others - fine.
For me that is exaggeration.
Jesus Christ is a true Divine Teacher.

 

How can Jesus be a divine teacher if he is not God?

 

False, to be a Christian means you accept Jesus Christ as your Savior.

If they were one and the same there would be no Trinity.
Or any reason to refer to such. They are one in as much as they represent the same truth.

 

Thanks, Jim! However, I am rarely discouraged, but frequently encouraged.

I firmly believe that all true seekers will eventually find The Way. We can share the truth; what others do with it is between them and God.

 

That's not the sole requirement for Christianity, and furthermore, belief alone is not enough. The Bible says demons believe, and they tremble.

 

Which Jesus did not speak.

 

Act 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved? v31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

The "devils" knowledge spoken of in James is different from the saving belief spoken of in Acts. Yes, these demons believe that He is God... they know it full well. But they actually do NOT have faith in the harmony of His perfections. Indeed, to the contrary, they rebelled against Him in their sinful pride. They hoped to disprove His omnipotence.

Therefore believing that He is God to them is quite different from believing that He is the omnipotent saving and merciful God that we are told will in itself, proving our faith, save us by His Grace.

We know far better than they that He is God.

Believing Ohio State is the best football team is different from knowing they will win. The true Christian has no such doubts regarding our Father in Heaven.

The demons fucked up.

 

"The demons fucked up."

That's a good way of putting it! And they'll have all of eternity to regret the error of their ways.

 

YES YOU ARE RIGHT! BUT real ( Moral ) secret was that, god trying to undertsand the all mankind's, believe in YOURSELF, God lives in your body , in your soul. You people have many internal powers which people either don't know cause of their small problems created by theirself.

Some Quotes

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. -- Matthew 7:21

And when Jesus had cried with a loud voice, he said, Father, into thy hands I commend my spirit: and having said thus, he gave up the ghost. -- Luke 23:46.

Then he called his twelve disciples together, and gave them power and authority over all devils, and to cure diseases. -- Luke 9:1,2.

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved. -- Romans 10:9

Jesus Christ the same yesterday, and to day, and for ever. -- Hebrews 13:8

In trouble then and fear I sought
The Man who taught in Galilee;
And peace unto my soul was brought,
All my faith came back to me.
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If Christ is the wisdom of God and the power of God in the experience of those who trust and love him, there needs no further argument of his divinity. -- Henry Ward Beecher

Well, i dont want to prove anything here, ( i am hindu, but i believe in all god )

 

Do you ever get off your merry-go-round and have a look back at what you are saying from time to time?

After all that is said in this thread you ask the above question? Have a think about it man before posting meaningless questions.

And Jim,

I never said Jesus spoke Greek did I? So why suggest that I did? However, if Jesus=God why didn't he or couldn't he if he is the Almighty himself? Ponder over those thoughts for a few minutes.

Col

 

Its like banging your head against the wall man. Whatever logical explanation you will give they won't understand.

 

How Jesus can be both man and God is not logical. But that's what the Bible says over and over again.

If you want to reject the Bible because you can't understand what it says then fine.

 

Cheap SEO Services never answered my earlier question about Jesus being Michael, the archangel. Specifically, if Jesus was Michael why did He allow people to worship Him? You can take a look at Revelation 22:8, 9 which reads:

If Jesus was Michael, then Jesus sinned for many years by allowing people to worship Him.

Please don't give me the Watchtower's long and canned response. When JW's get stuck they have to either to come out with yet another New World Translation or come up with some gobbleygook answer.

For everyone else, JW theology also teaches that Jesus came back secretly in 1914. Scripture teaches otherwise in Revelation 1:7 that there was and will not be any secret return: