Is Jesus God? IMO no. He is the manifestation of God though..

Here are some scriptures:

" Deuteronomy 6:4. The Catholic New Jerusalem Bible (NJB) here reads: "Listen, Israel: Yahweh our God is the one, the only Yahweh."

The hebrew grammar used here for the word "one" has no plural modifiers to suggest that it means anything but one individual.

After Jesus came on the Earth that stance didn't change: "God is only one."-Galatians 3:20

"There is one God, and one mediator between God and men, a man, Christ Jesus, who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all."-1 Timothy 2:5, 6.

John 1:18 says: "No one has ever seen God", but if Jesus is God than that statement can't be true because many saw Jesus.

The logical conclusion is that Jesus is God's Son and not equal to Him.

 

A) you cannot be a Christian and not believe Jesus was God..(hence the word CHRISTian)
B)You are right, Jesus was praying to God. What you are not understanding though is that in order for our sins to be forgiven, Jesus had to undertake his task as a human. There is your proof right there. As God, he could have easily stepped down from the cross, but to save humankind, he had to suffer like a human.
C) You obviously don't understand any sort of trinitarian theology. Therefore, in my eyes, you are not a Christian. You fall into the category with mormons (people who call themselves Christians but are not).

 

there are quite a few passges in the bible where jesus does claim that he is god and the same as god. Im half awake right now , but i do know that he said something like this: where there was nothing but he i was there also. HE meaning god the father.

 

Father, Son, and Holy Spirit are ONE. That is the basis of trinitarian theology. to apply logic to the situation negates it as a whole. If God was logical, then we could all understand God, and if we understand God, then we are God. How is that some logic for you. People need to quit putting God in a box. In a box, God can be whatever WE want him to be. however, only when we realize that God is so much more than we ever can be do we really start to know God. Furthermore, people saw Jesus because he was both fully Human AND fully God. There is no way that we can distinguish them or seperate them. Jesus, God the Father, and the Holy Spirit are three in one, ONE God.

 

Actually, in Mark's gospel he asks people not to tell anyone who he is. I think you are referring to John's Gospel, the first chapter. "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. He was in the beginning with God. All things came into being through him, and without him not one thing came into being. What has come into being in him was life, and the life was the light of all people. The light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not overcome it." This text is often used on Christmas day in Christian churches to explain part of the birth and originality of Jesus.

 

For those interested in an in-depth bible study, take a look at "Is Jesus God?"

 

Hahaha!! I've often likened it to a menu at TGIFridays, I'll take the John 6:44 but hold the 1:11

And, Matt, I like your faith.

 

But on what basis is it said that those are added?

The verses later posted on 2 Timothy is another good example.

 

That doesn't answer my question. If Jesus is God than why John 1:18 says: "No one has ever seen God". If seeing Jesus = seeing God than either the scripture is incorrect or the trinity is.

Skinny

 

Skinny i woul dneed to study it further but my understanding is that maybe no one has seen what he looks like in spirit. This is probably what he meant

 

What we saw was the "human" form of God, i.e. Jesus. Since Jesus is fully human and fully devine, what we saw as humans is the humanity part. If you think about it, the only ones that have seen God are those in heaven, which are the people that have not been buried in the ground. So that leaves only a few that were taken to heaven by God.

 

The Spanish NVI (NIV) is interesting: "Nadie ha visto jamás a Dios; pero el único Hijo, que es Dios y que está al lado del Padre, lo ha dado a conocer."

Literally translated into English, this speaks of Jesus "...the Son, who is God and who is at the side of the Father..."

 

Opinions are many and varied in this thread. But the Bible is quite definitive on the issue of "Is Jesus God?". Here are some very clear Scriptures showing the Deity of Jesus. This is just a sample; there are many more.

• John 5:18 ...[Jesus] was even calling God his own Father, making himself equal with God.

• Philippians 2:5-6 ...Christ Jesus, Who, being in very nature God...

• Matthew 1:23 “The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel”— which means, “God with us.”

• Isaiah 9:6 For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government will be on his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Mighty God...

• John 20:28 Thomas said to him [Jesus], “My Lord and my God!”

• Hebrews 1:8 But about the Son he says, “Your throne, O God, will last for ever and ever.”

• John 1:1, 14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God... [14] The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us.

• 1 Timothy 3:16, King James Version And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh...

• 1 John 5:20b And we are in him who is true — even in his Son Jesus Christ. He is the true God and eternal life.

• Titus 2:13 ...while we wait for the blessed hope — the glorious appearing of our great God and Savior, Jesus Christ.

• Romans 9:5 ...Christ, who is God over all, forever praised! Amen.

I've written a fairly short bible study, for those who might be interested, entitled Jesus Christ — Who Is He?

 

doesn't make sense...god can take any form he wants...plus I don't see anywhere in the bible that says Jesus is God (Jesus is God <---exactly like that not like "I am the way, the truth, and the life"
)....lets see...

How can Jesus pray to God if Jesus was god?

"I am the way, the truth, and the life

the above can mean ANYTHING...if he was the way..he can be the one that leads the people to doing good deads or lead them to the right path of life or without him noone will succeed...does that clearly mean "I am God"

if you want to prove to me once and for all...show me where it says "I am God" btw I don't believe in the Trinity, I believe in jesus but not the way you guys do...
peace

 

You need to read the original Greek and Hebrew texts. Get the Emphatic Diaglott to see word for word the correct translation. Also, do some wider reading to get each verse you quoted into the correct context. Your opinion quoted here is way off the mark.

When you say "very clear scriptures", according to who and how can someone rely on your interpretation of the meaning of each verse you have quoted? By using a measuring stick. That measuring stick is the Emphatic Diaglott. It is highly regarded and bound in 1864.

Look for yourself. Don't believe the hype! Look here to see John 1:1 where it says "and a god was the word" and not the "word was God". Notice the difference? "A god" is something quite different to "God". Why? Capitilisation plays a big part here. Along with the symbols being different. This illustrates very clearly that it is not God but a god. That god being god-like. In other words "Jesus" who is the word of God.

To back this up read Acts 28:6 where it distinctly says "He is a god" or word for word "a god him to be". The symbol is the very same. And again the same in Acts 14:11.

You can not get it any clearer than that.

Col

 

No thanks. I'll let the Watch Tower followers cling to that one and its failed attempt to discredit the deity of Jesus. I intend to stick with the tried-and-true translations which have served the Church well for two millennia.

 

How about we let all the readers here see for themselves and judge for themselves what is true and factual? John 8:33

Col

 

The Bible is very clear on this - this is a lie. The Bible is called the Living Word for a reason. Language also is a living thing.

God never once said that anything had to be read in Hebrew or Greek.

In fact, Jesus spoke neither... he spoke Aramaic.

The suggestion that the Bible could only be understood in Hebrew or Greek is laughable considering Jesus did not speak in Greek, so already, right off the bat, we have a translation.

Jesus would have told us to study Hebrew and Greek if it were neccesary, did He not tell us: Jhn 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if [it were] not [so], I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

2Pe 3:9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.

Now seeing that the Bible was not common property for a good thousand years after His death, one wonders how to reconcile somone saying the Bible must be read in a language He Himself did not speak to begin with.

Oh, and if Jesus wanted us to read in Hebrew or Greek only, (ancient Greek at that)... why'd He create so many languages? afterall, He Himself said He would that none should perish.

The suggestion is elitest. And downright unChristian if you ask me. Sorry SEO, but that's my read on it.

 

True. Which is why I read my Bible in English. However, the book of John from where John 1:1 is taken was written in Koine Greek. The only reason I refer to the original language is to clarify a point of dispute. The book of Acts was also written in Koine Greek by the apostle Paul. Same reason for referral. The Bible is and should be available in all languages so that everyone may come to an accurate knowledge of the one true God whose name is Jehovah (Ps 83:18, Ex 6:3) and his son Jesus Christ (John 17:3)

Jesus spoke Hebrew as well as Aramaic because was completely familiar with the Hebrew scrolls(Luke 24:44-49, Luke 4:16-21).

In 2 Peter 3:9, who is the LORD? If you look up your reference Bible you will find each place where the LORD is written in capitals, is the place where God's name has been removed and LORD substituted. God's name in Hebrew is JHVH or YHWH commonly referred to as Jehovah or Yahweh. This is Jesus' father who he refers to at John 14:2.

Jesus did not create the languages. Please refer to Genesis 11:1-9.

Col

 

The Son of a cow is a cow
The Son of a dog is a dog
The Son of God is God

That's what my bible tell me.Not the watchtower or any denominations