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Is it true that the last Prophet was a Pedophile ?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by CosmicRay, May 2, 2007.

  1. #1
    A question to the Muslims ...

    Is it true that your prophet was a pedophile as stated in this video ?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZS_WakLDBes&mode=related&search=

    Muhammad's first wife - Khadija, died a few years before he fled to Medina. Later, he was encouraged to take another wife. At the age of 49 he was betrothed to Aisha, age six in 624 A.D. Aisha was his closest friend's, Abu Bakr's, daughter. Abu Bakr was Muhammad’s daily companion and one of his first believers and successor of Muhammad. We can rightfully imagine 6 year old Aisha picking up her toys and moving to Muhammad's house, where he demurely waited until she was nine to have sexual intercourse with her.

    In the first year of Muhammad's residence at Yathrib (now Medina) the "Prophet" who never prophesized, celebrated his marriage to Ayisha. Ayisha was then only a young girl (jariyah) of 9-years old per Al-Bukhari, Abu Dawud and Tabari Aisha was 9 when they Muhammad sexually consummated his marriage with her. Muhammad 52.
    Aisha herself testified to these facts:

    “The messenger of God betrothed me when I was six years old and then married me when I was nine years old.”

    Source: Sahih Muslim (by Imam al-Mawawy), vol. 3, p. 577.
     
    CosmicRay, May 2, 2007 IP
  2. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    I wonder why none of them are answering to that one? I guess the truth does really hurt...
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #3
    For those who don't spend a lot of time around children, here's what a nine year old girl looks like.

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    That's what made Muhammad feel like a man.
     
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  4. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    Humm the silence ... I don't get it ... the latest and greatest prophet

    was

    1. a pedophile and could not control his sex drive
    2. a war monger
    3. stole his teachings from other sources,
    distorted these teachings and claimed them as his own coming from God.
    4. advocated death for disagreeing with his teachings.

    etc etc and yet he is supposed to be the latest and greatest prophet ? :confused:

    Can somebody please show me why he's the latest and greatest for
    over 1 billion people ?
     
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    Toopac Peon

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    ly2 Notable Member

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    Allah Akbar!
     
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  7. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    :D that seems to be the answer when confronted with this reality.
     
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    suitsme Peon

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    Usually they say that he didn't consummate the marriage until she was 9, as if that's any better. Seems like some Muslims in their hear to hearts would feel that this is wrong. He also had 14 wives when the Quran says you can only have 4, go figure he had a hard time following his own rules.
     
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  9. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    I'm still trying to see why he was called a prophet ?

    Can 1 billion people be so disillusioned ? :rolleyes:
     
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    Mr_2 Peon

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    #10
    umm ok let me copy and paste something fhere.

    source:
    http://www.answering-christianity.com/childbrides_rebuttal.htm

    Since GOD Almighty enabled females in Aisha's age to get pregnant, as it happened even in our world today with the 9-year old Thai girl giving birth, then why can't her age be the minimum age for marriage, especially during the Biblical and Islamic days where people used to die between the ages of 40s and 50s due to diseases and malnutrition?


    Why did Shamoun fail to give a single reference, beside that ridiculous message board's post, from a Hadith of Prophet Muhammad that Aisha did indeed get "thighed"? And why is Shamoun not rejecting his Bible for containing far worse points (virgin girls as young as 3 were raped and little boys were killed by Moses and his men) than the one he raised against Islam, which is doubtful to begin with?


    good luck
     
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  11. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    #11

    Great, say it's ok for a 50+ year old to marry a 6-9 year old when he had
    other women in his life.

    What I am trying to find out is ... what makes this last guy a prophet
    to be venerated by over 1 billion people when he is obviously so virtuous :rolleyes: ?
     
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    suitsme Peon

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    Yes they can, especially when they are forced to follow and are not allowed to question the Quran or Muhammad. He wasn't even a prophet. In order to be a prophet, you have to prophesize.
     
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  13. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    #13
    Why would Allah choose as a messenger someone who

    1. commited murder and advocated the murder of those that disagreed :rolleyes:
    2. stole from other sources to package his "divine" book :rolleyes:
    3. could not follow his own rules :rolleyes:

    Is this the latest and greatest person that Allah could find to speak for him ?
     
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    Mr_2 Peon

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    #14
    Dont be funny


    1- Whats your proof of murder?You were there ? You seen it by your own eyes?


    2- Last prophet ! means its linked to previous ones.

    3- his own rules?! which rules you mean?! enlightenb me plz.




    2-
     
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    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    That's according to current morals and ethics and that was a very different time. Disease killed most people (of all races and religions) before they hit 40, wars made a significant impact too. The need to procreate was strong and so the age of consent was lower than now.

    Be careful judging the history of others, there are unsavory aspects of all our cultures, buried deeply in the past - where they should stay.
     
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  16. CosmicRay

    CosmicRay Peon

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    #16


    Let's start with you enlightening us on how he came up with original ideas
    in the Koran ? :rolleyes:
     
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    Mr_2 Peon

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    #17
    i am too tired to write about it. you can use google.com

    besides its too easy and simple just do a simple search in google.

    About the above accusation related to Prophet mohammad and Aisha marriage.

    The source of the above information can only be the Hadiths books which are nothing but lies attributed to prophet Muhammad. It has no support in Quran. It does not make practical sense.

    Any person at the age of six is still a child who is incapable of taking crucial decisions which are essential for marriage under Quranic guidance, like taking solemn pledge, ascertaining mutual attraction, agreeing to the dowry (including adjustment thereto), ascertaining whether the opposite person is an idol worshipper or not and many other issues. Further, marriage involves taking serious responsibilities on the part of both the spouses concerning the upbringing of the family, which a child of the age of 6 or 8 or whatever is incapable of taking.


    God commanded us in the Quran not to accept any Hadith but the Quran. The prophet Muhammad himself ordered his followers not to write any Hadiths and to write only the Quran. You will find a rich source of information regarding the corruption of Hadith books and how they insult the prophet Muhammad, insult God Almighty and insult this great religion on our web site at;
     
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    #18
    I was going to point out, that is was different then, because it's slighly true, however what is also is true is that the age of consent is still roughly the same as in was in Muhammad's time, some still do have very low ages for marriage & naturally sex, for example Iran age 13 that would make those people who do consummate the marraige a pedophile in western eyes. You can then switch the argument from it's different times to it's a different belief system etc but in western eyes they will always be thought of in the way we use the word pedophile.

    And it does lead to the question why can't Muslims update their religion to modern standards like the bible, at this rate there will be Muslims living like cavemen in the year 4000.
     
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    Great you can find nothing original in the Koran that did not come from sources hundreds and even thousands for years old.

    This site may interest you ... it's from x muslims. :rolleyes:

    http://www.islam-watch.org/CSKarlson/TruthAboutIslam.htm
     
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    The message of Quran overall is " be a good person ,help others, don't harm others defend yourself ,repect other people etc.."

    Its something not new neither old.
     
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