Is it true that google gives upper hand to older domains?

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  1. andymayo

    andymayo Guest

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    #21
    Like i said its an area of opinion.. are you going to link me to anything or just keep giving YOUR opinion....
     
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  2. Secret Squirrel

    Secret Squirrel Banned

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    #22
    Are you not capable of doing a simple search on this yourself?

    How about this link to wikipedia on the sandbox:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_Effect (and 4 authoriatative links at the bottom of that page)
     
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  3. andymayo

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    #23
    wikipedia says : Its all about opinion not fact as i have stated many times.. here is a quote:

    "Regardless of interpretation, it is widely accepted that new Websites and Webpages do wait longer for ranking in Google than other search engines"

    and i requested a link in which you get your information from.. i didnt know there was a simple way to search that. However, you do seem to be a simple person :)
     
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  4. andymayo

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    #24
    From authoriatative link 1:

    This is what is currently believed to be happening on more web servers today. Some programmers have viewed Google as uncomfortable to rank newer websites until they have proven their viability to exist for more than a period of "x" months. Thus the term "Sandbox Effect" applies to the idea that all new websites have their ratings placed in a holding tank until such time is deemed appropriate before a ranking can commence.
     
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  5. andymayo

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    From authoriatative link 2:

    The sandbox filter seems to affect nearly all new websites placing them on an initial "probation" status. The effect of this is that new websites may get into Google's SERP's (search engine results pages) relatively quickly and may even perform well for a couple of weeks. When the filter is applied to the new website it is referred to as being put in the "sandbox".

    (that is what happened to my site)
     
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    #26
    and the third one:

    What is the Google sandbox theory? The Sandbox theory, or Sandbox effect as it has become known in the SEO world, is a dampening filter that is applied to new websites. It usually lasts for between two and six months from the site's launch date. It's not unusual for a new website to enter the SERPs (search engine results pages), for a couple of weeks and then drop out of the search engine rankings completely, so if it happens to your new website - don't panic!
     
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    #27
    and finally:

    Some sites are just plain lucky to avoid the “Sandbox” and some are trying to rank in an industry that Google will consider not extremely competitive. Let’s say you have a site offering “Information On Local Badminton Clubs On The Aran Islands”. Google’s job is to help users find relevant results. This site would be relevant and would be far less subject to spam compared to a site geared toward “Making Money Online” which has many fly by night websites trying to spam their “latest get rich scheme” into the index. It should also be noted that even if a site is subject to the “Sandbox” effect, it can still rank pretty well for what is called Long Tail results. But that is a nice advanced topic for another day.


    Now Secret Squirrel like i said where did you get YOUR information from... Youve just linked me to what i was saying all allong...and from such a SIMPLE search :)
     
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    #28
    A sites age is absolutely factored into thier ranking algorithm but it is only 1 of many factors so dont sweat it too much
     
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    #29
    LOL, I want to meet this guy!
     
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    #30
    Age is a huge factor in high SERP's in google.
     
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    #31
    In my opinion, Google does favor on older domain but not all of them. There is no use to use 10yrs old domain that never done anything on it or never been indexed. Here is a couple of reasons why older domain tend to get better rank than newer domain.

    1. Most of older domain has longer established history, more content, old aged content, got trusted link such as dmoz, yahoo directory for free and most of them got listed for "lifetime". You should know that site which is very old have advantage by get listed on dmoz and Yahoo directory for free when both of them built up on content at startup.

    2. Most of older domain have excellent keyword included within them, some with short and easy to remember name (cj.com for example)

    3. Most of older domain got natural link from other authoritative sites/domains easily, for example, Joeant, Yahoo Dir, Skaffe, Goguide, business.com and most of old-established directories got free link from Aviva Strongest Directory List without asking or spending a dime.
     
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    #32
    Yes... they give upper hand to them....

    i have a website to download songs which was launched this year..... it has all songs till 2008 where you can download songs for free.
    but a site (very old one) which don't have enough collection and they also don't let download until they user is premier(paid)

    google is ranking them at first place for every keyword before my site (keyword: "song name" download free)
     
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  13. tong1991

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    #33
    ok, thanks for all
     
    tong1991, Jul 7, 2008 IP
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    #34
    Yes, it is true. If your site has old domain- it is one more plus for your web site promotion. But the age of domain is nothing without SEO.
     
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    #35
    I think what you meant is, domain that is old and has a good reputation.Most old domains have pages that are very established that they rank better even though the optimization is not good.
     
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