Is it true that adsense is now falling down?

Discussion in 'AdSense' started by kk22bbme, Dec 5, 2005.

  1. #1
    is it true that many people are using and using it so google are now degrading?:mad:
     
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  2. yfs1

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    No, although I'm not sure if your question is very clear.

    Yahoo has yet to really take a lot of market share and most of those using Chikita were using it with AdSense. (Not to mention their audit system is hurting their market share)
     
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  3. Swordfish

    Swordfish Active Member

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    I'm not sure about that, but I have noticed a serious decline in payouts over the last couple of weeks with adsense...

    I'm still waiting to get into YPN.
     
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  4. daredashi

    daredashi Well-Known Member

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    #4
    decline of payouts indicate that degrading quality of publisher and not google ad network.
    as yfs1 told others are way behind than big bro.
     
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  5. ScottBannon

    ScottBannon Well-Known Member

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    I don't think so, for my sites it's been the exact opposite across the board lately.

    As daredashi said, declining numbers are more likely a sign of publisher-end issues than the ad network.
     
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  6. JakeJeck

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    Well those of us who pay for Adwords are now able to seperate the bids we pay for Search results (From Google) and Content results (from publishers). I just went and changed most of my content bids to 1/4th of what the price of the search bid is.

    Once more advertisers realize this I'd guess there will be a massive drop in AdSense revenues across the board.
     
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  7. danimal

    danimal Active Member

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    i'd like to know exactly why an advertiser would bid less for ads on content sites, over google search results... perhaps it's the perception that the targeting is better?
     
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    ronmojohny Well-Known Member

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    yes, the search results have a much better conversion rate than the content sites. I have turned off the content ads until just recently, now that I can bid way lower for the same ad on the content sites.

    Ron
     
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  9. JakeJeck

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    I dont think that it is google that is actually falling down, but rather with YPN paying such high rates, people are making more from it. YPN is only temporary though.
     
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    Evoleto Well-Known Member

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    Very true, and I highly doubt he will get to see an advertising service stronger soon, therefore more content and more traffic is the only way to get the checks fat.
     
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    It's about the content on the site. If your page has dropped in ranking you're getting less visitors and less clickthru, so it is content/publisher related. I also agree with the separation issue, I never thought about that...

    MtraX
     
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  13. aeiouy

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    One day one of these programs is going to allow publishers to set minimum bids for access to their site. That ought to help shape things up for publishers a bit. Right now it is a fairly one way street. You accept what Google, for example, gives you and like it or you do something else.

    Allowing publishers to say I only want google ads when they pay x amount will help a lot. Someone will offer that functionality eventually.
     
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  14. yfs1

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    I will add one other aspect to this debate...Try this experiment:

    One day start a post that your earnings have dropped, has anyone seen the same?

    The next day start a post saying your earnings are way up, does anyone see the same?

    You will get 10 responses agreeing with you on both.

    Why? There are a ton of people on this forum and AdSense numbers naturally fluctuate...Just because 10 peoples dropped doesn't mean the whole business model is failing...It just means 10 other people dropped too.
     
    yfs1, Dec 6, 2005 IP
  15. kk22bbme

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    if that that is the case
    i should use YPN rather than google?
    but im from the other country?
     
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    You aren't eligible for Yahoo....THere is plenty of money to be made with AdSense and I'm not sure which post you are reading that is convincing you fo otherwise.

    There are plenty of people making 5 figures a month...Until you get the most out of AdSense, I wouldn't worry about finding alternatives.
     
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    thanks for the link... if what he sez is true, it has to be the direct result of google sending irrelevant adsense ads to websites.

    i have complained several times to google support about the lousy targeting they practice... my url filter is full of garbage, lol.

    adwords advertisers need to be able to target specific websites only, on top of being able to target google search results... better yet, specific pages on specific websites... for instance, i want to target all relevant google serps, plus only one website, for my adwords ads.

    lumping all content network ads together, like it is now, will hurt both the advertiser and the publisher.
     
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    Google's separate pricing for content should make Yahoo accelerate the roll out of YPN. I saw my Adsense earnings and eCPM drop on November 22 at the time I noticed the separate pricing for content. Separate bids for content is taking the wind out of the Adsense sails. It made me anticipate my invitation to YPN that much more and I got it today. I switched one of my big two sites to YPN.

    I don't like the fact that Google dropped the payout without allowing us to place "Increase quality or bid $0.20 to activate" and be on my site. Many seem to think content clickthroughs are nothing but fraud but if you look around the Adsense forums you'll see that fraudsters do get tossed out. So as an Adsenser my earnings are dropped because of a generalization and or myth about content clicks and I have no way to set a floor on bids.

    I purchase some Adwords traffic and found Search and Content conversion to be equivalent and I may lower or eliminate some search bids and focus on the content bids since I see comparable results and for lower cost and I also like the idea of supporting the Adsense community. Google will need to do something to bring back some of the excitement around Adsense to hold off YPN, MSN, and whoever else comes along.
     
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  19. elrayjones

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    I have seen this to over the last two weeks also. My clicks and payout per click went into a slump....starting around the end of thanksgiving. They are just know picking back up. I't has to do with the time of year. This slump happen across all of my sites.
     
    elrayjones, Dec 6, 2005 IP