Is it really worth it to be in Yahoo directories and DMOZ?

Discussion in 'Directories' started by blogdude, Dec 8, 2007.

  1. #1
    With the large fee for submission to Yahoo directories with no guarantee of inclusion. The fact that half of the sites included in Yahoo directory are spammy and of low quality. And the fact that DMOZ is the same way - loaded with low quality spam sites (peer editted so anyone can include or thusly disallow (like competitors) anyone regardless of quality. In my opinion both directories completely suck and I have never once used one nor have I ever come across anyone that has ever used or even mentioned one. And while Google is nailing sites for paid links because they think it cheapens search then why don't they remove Froogle and Google products all together as that is full of some of the crappiest stuff out there and they don't review any of it?

    What is the DPers take on this.
     
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  2. swedal

    swedal Notable Member

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    DMOZ seems kind of irrelevant since they don't seem to accept any site and if they do it takes a very long time. Probably worth it though if you can get in since it is free.

    Yahoo - I have never paid to be in there - For that $300 fee I can think of 5 or 6 other directories I would rather be in at any given time. Maybe someone who has tried Yahoo can speak from experience.
     
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    jg123 Notable Member

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    I have mostly heard of mixed results from Yahoo, but have no experience myself. I agree with swedal, I can buy some nice featured links for $300
     
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  4. mywebsearches

    mywebsearches Peon

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    #4
    I tell you what,

    This question has been asked a lot of times, so if you want to get more comments, just do a search for it.

    IMO- DMOZ is dead. It will need to be Lazarus, if it ever comes alive again.
     
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  5. dargre

    dargre Peon

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    Confirmed.
    Have few listing there - not worth 10 cents.
    Taffic=NULL, also somehow PR doesn't affect real site PR.
     
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  6. Western

    Western Well-Known Member

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    this question asked many time
    IMO - make your content usefull
    so you wil get listed on al directory's automaticaly
     
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  7. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    With the things i read about DMOZ id say not worth even thinking about it.

    With Yahoo, in all honesty i dont know, for their charge id rather spread that money out accross a handful of decent directories.

    Is that $300 yearly too or permanent? either way i would rather invest it by spreading it out, not too thinly though.
     
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    discover Notable Member

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    its yearly
    since i remember matt cutts mentioned that dmoz had no special weight attributed to it id imagine yahoo would be the same so unless you are on a good page or category it might be hard to justify $300 annually
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Thanks discover, i agree, hard to justify it with a potential poor return.
     
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    Getting listed in DMOZ is getting listed in some of the directories who uses the ODP directory data format example is Amfibi Directory or Google Directory and many more. While getting listed in Yahoo would get you listed in much of the Yahoo Regional Directory.
     
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  11. WatchOut

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    I don't think DMOZ inclusion is very good, but I think it does have some extra weight, but some stated Matt Cutts said it doesn't have any extra weight, I'll follow that then, however both directories are quite old (DMOZ for example) and the age matters, and it is a quality backlink even if the web directory itself is corrupted, I wouldn't mind having a backlink at DMOZ, and I'm sure none of you would if you had the opportunity to.

    Yahoo on the other hand, has quite a high fee and I don't think it is a backlink you should consider, as stated above, it all depends on where you're listed for example, if you're near the parent categories it may also get you extra exposure and so on. I don't think Yahoo is worth the fee, as you can simply go and purchase purchase several review fees at quality, established web directories and instead gain more backlinks this way.

    Meti
     
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  12. giorgioarmani

    giorgioarmani Well-Known Member

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    Yahoo directory is kind of tricky, I listed one of my sites there last year and must say it had zero effect... The category we were listed in had so many entries that we appeared on page 4 which wasnt even indexed! In my eyes quite a waste of $300...
     
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    yahoo is useless
     
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  14. Claudek

    Claudek Well-Known Member

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    I realise that the question asked is loaded. I will give a couple of points of interest I've come across for Yahoo & DMOZ.

    In one of my companies, we included Yahoo Directory listing as part of any web development we did for clients (if they were not already listed). We found that it was well worth it and our trackings confirmed that once approved and listed, the clients began to have traffic coming in from Yahoo Directory. Now the thing to note there is that Yahoo (may depend on location), does use its Directory for local listing searches. This combined with just natural traffic from the Directory, led to many leads and business for our clients (Lawyers, Accountants, Architects and Catering mainly). This was due to the fact that the people coming in via the search/directory were actually looking for this product/service and as such were more likely to do business with our clients due to their needs.

    If you want to list with Yahoo Directory, I have found it to be worth it. The $300 is nothing compared to the business it brings in. It would probably be better if the site was a business specific site rather than a general site, so do take this into consideration.

    In regards to DMOZ, it does have some value in its "power". I do not know of any other word right now, as it is a bit late here. What I meant by that was that being listed there does seem to give some SERP benefit if a competitor is not listed. A website I had was eventually rundown due to hacking and a competitor who had a similar name website. I am still listed as number one on all keywords on all the major SEs and the competitor is on number 2 even though his site has much more content/activity than mine. The only difference I can honestly see is that my site was listed in DMOZ and his isn't.

    Make of the above, what you may. Was a personal view of my only site in DMOZ and the only reason I believe it still ranks Number 1 in all major SE's (note that smaller SEs such as Ask do not have it at number 1)
     
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    I agree with pipes about Yahoo but don't forget that DMOZ is free and after two-three days you have been added, link popularity grow very fast
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Your right, the fact its free is still better than nothing and if you can get accepted then cool.
     
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    If not yahoo and dmoz, then what directories do you recommend for the biggest bang for your buck?
     
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    pipes Prominent Member

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    Im not sure i can recommend, but to help others recommend, what specifically do you require/prefer from your submission?

    The deeplinks? Traffic? PR increase? serps increase? all of them and more?
     
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    DMOZ - a free submission: worth the minimal effort to find a relevant category and writing a decent description based on their guidelines. Not worth the effort obsessing over once you've submitted.

    Yahoo - fee based: in our experience it has been worth the fee charged. For eCommerce sites I'm famliar with, the owners' ROI have well exceeded the fee charged.

    You can always try a free submission route; I know of a number of sites that have been included this way.
     
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    DMOZ is on it's way out, but is is free and worth submitting your website to even though it may take 6+ months to get it approved. Yahoo is just a waste of money. Non-profits can submit for free though.
     
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