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Is it just me or is DMOZ horrible.

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by tigrrra, Jul 27, 2013.

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    Anonymously Well-Known Member

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    #41
    As Jim Noble asked above, please define 'quality'. Do you mean looks good, latest gizmos etc, because that is not how DMOZ defines the sites it wants to list. It defines them as 'unique content'. If you want to see something about 'ugly' sites, which is what I take you to mean by 'crappy' have a look at Snooks' blog post
    http://blog.dmoz.org/2013/06/27/why-list-an-ugly-site/.

    #sliceoflife
    DMOZ requires that editors perform a minimum of 1 edit per 4 months to continue to be editors. Just thought you should know what our contract is. Sometimes editors will work for hours each day, sometimes not at all. Depends on how long one needs to take the dog for a walk, play golf, do the ironing, work overtime. Bit difficult to predict. And can you tell me how many edits are done each month by editors, as you seem to complain about how few they are, and can you tell me how many hours editors put in on structure, editor tools, reviewing new editor applications, bribery attempts etc which never show in edits?

    And when you put in 8 minutes a month on editing, then you can lecture me about what I do with my spare time, unless you are happy for me to tell you how you MUST spend 8 hours every month....are you??SEMrush
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #42
    Do you mean that DMOZ editors are still registering pharmacy, gambling, porn sites as much as before? ;):)
     
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    Phooey Active Member

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    #43
    DMOZ is a waste of time. The category that I applied to hasn't been touched since mid-2012. Most categories go back even further than that without any change. If you select a completely random category, there's a good chance at least 50% of the listed links are either something completely different from the listing or dead altogether.
     
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    Anonymously Well-Known Member

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    #44
    This is a human edited directory run by volunteers who ask the public for help in its maintenance, so did you flag any site up for editors to look at, or did you just come on here and whinge about what the editors who work in their spare time are not doing or did you just make up that statistic?
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #45
    If the "volunteer" editors left DMOZ to real volunteers who are interested in it as a hobby instead of still trying to live in an old time and make a couple of bucks by selling links or making gambling, pharmacy, porn sites then it wouldn´t be in such a shitty state and there would be more than enough real volunteers to make it a useful resource.
     
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    dwirch Active Member

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    #46
    This is the same old tired argument that gets trotted out when people are whining about dmoz. "Oh, we poor editors are so overworked! Won't you please volunteer to help us?"

    Maybe if some editors were allowed to join the effort, something could get done. So here's a tip: When people are pissing and moaning about the free service (they get what the pay for, right?), and you or any other editor puts forth the request for editors, maybe answer a few of those requests, instead of sending them to dev/null.

    You might be surprised at how many folks are willing to help with this effort, if you'd only give them the opportunity.
     
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #47
    I dont think i've ever whinged about being overworked.....editing is fun, but if for some reason i dont feel like editing i just wont do any. May be for a day, may be for a month......depends when i feel like doing some more. The problem is really people whinging we are too slow, we dont edit enough..........as if just because we are Editors we are expected to spend 24hrs per day editing rather than doing other things in life :(

    We would love more volunteer Editors, but i believe the problem is that the greater majority that apply, do so simply to further their own cause rather than to actually do some editing and improve the directory. I must admit though, i have absolutely no involvement with New Applications and this statement is purely my opinion and i cannot validate it.
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #48
    How will they be any different than people who are already in?:rolleyes:
     
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    Arick unirow Prominent Member

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    #49
    I hope DMOZ stay as is. It maybe open/accept new editor but I do myself think it is better to not open/accept any registration or better, limit the registration to only 'well-known and qualified peoples'. Don't quote it as it is my opinion about how DMOZ should accept new editors.
    I believe the editor is still working but just like as @snooks said, Editor are free-man which is not working 24 hour each day. Editors are selected people whom dedicating their free times to make good directory. I'm already aware many people may 'asking' about how editors work and why they didn't work really fast or as they expected.
    We should understand if editor is just like us. Don't blame them for the system they were working on. Blame the owner for placing such policy/rules. But once again, we should understand if the policy/rules were created to make good directory. There is rules everywhere. Even DP place strict rules to keep this forum as great place for everyone (and not just for few peoples). **possible off topic** there are many peoples didn't like about 'three likes rule'. However the rules has helped this forum to stay cleaner and better. ** End Off Topic**
    Dmoz is respected directory. What make it respected is not because only great and useful sites being listed. No, it is being great directory because there are many great people working on it. As long as respected Editors stay working in directory, DMOZ would be the best directory in the internet.
     
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    #50
    In my opinion, Google fails once again giving so much influence in SERP for dmoz backlink. It's Gogle words, that links directories should be past, but for any reason Dmoz isn't... More, I hate sites from the past (in looking). If they respect what they doing and if they respect their visitors, I strongly recommend them to update dmoz as a site. Look at the design now, it's almost responsive :) Because now, it seems that site is created for Google, not for the visitors - and the result is - Google loves that :)
     
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    #51
    Google has not and never had anything to do with DMOZ, they just used to clone DMOZ for their directory and now use some of DMOZ descriptions, it is owned by AOL. There is a good deal of work ging on in the background to improve the directory, but it has no source of income, a plus in my book, so we don't expect that to be done at any pace. (No income is good because it means no advertising, editors not paid, so there is no financial bias in the directory)
     
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    #52
    LOL. The same BS about the work in the "background" which is being repeated for the last 7-8 years. People in AOL don´t even know that DMOZ exists which has opened the door to a bunch of crooks to try to scam little money here and there by pretending to be "volunteers" and sell links or promote their pharmacy, gambling and porn sites. The smarter ones have already left and trying with new "volunteer" works while the bottom of the barrel is still hanging on to their editor posts.
     
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    #53
    I applied 3 years ago. I waited. I notice my editor hadn't even been active since 2010 in about 15 categories. I went to their forums and posted about it. Got same response, just have to wait. It really is a clown show over there to be honest. The only people who get listed are editors sites as far as I can see. I would bet every single editor at DMOZ has a website listed.

    Also, you are wasting your time complaining. Some of the rudest and most despicable people I have run across on internet are DMOZ editors talking crap in forums. It gets old . They should make one thread so DMOZ editors can come in and cry about being overworked and how they aren't getting paid etc. It is same speech in every online forum on the internet. Yet they all have websites listed. DMOZ is probably one of the most unprofessionally run and dirty websites on internet.

    Only way you are getting in is to cheat.




    My two cents.
     
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    To prove my point. About 6 months ago, I hired a "seo" guy. I asked him if I should pay the $299 to join yahoo directory. He said he had a friend at DMOZ and could get me listed. I was suspect to it but I agreed . I gave him my website info on Feb 2nd 2013. I went to the page I requested to be added and that exact page was updated 2 hours after I gave the "seo" guy my info. So either this is a huge coincedence or they updated the page when seo guy asked his friend to do it. He said I would be listed in 1-2 months.

    About a month later I asked the guy about some other seo work he had done and we got into an argument because I feel the guy was a thief. My site was never listed on DMOZ although I know 2 hours after I gave my info to the guy the page was updated. DMOZ is dirty and there isn't any doubt about it. They need to clean that place up and get some people in there that actually are volunteering their time instead of losers who only are interested in getting their own sites listed and demeaning anyone else in forums .
     
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    #55
    Please tell me where I have a site listed on DMOZ and prove your statement which is just lies.

    How much time do you spend in your spare time listing and collating sites? We don't whinge that we don't get paid we explain why things are as they are. The focus of DMOZ is not like most if not all other directories. It does not operate for profit, it's owners AOL get no finance from owning and running the site. It is a hobby for editors to collect and collate sites and is not a service to site owners. So if a company wants to sponsor people who want to build a directory for its own sake, not for site owners benefit, and they allow people to work on it as a hobby, demanding only 1 edit per 4 months, what is that to you? If you don't like that, then so what? Just go and pay or whatever to get listed in hundreds of other directories. Tell us what right you have to demand anything from the DMOZ directory, its owners or its editors.

    You make me laugh with this posting
    Why blame DMOZ editors when you were foolish enough to pay someone to bribe an editor and then when they took your money and you did not get listed, you blame the DMOZ editor. You were had with a common scam, but you need to blame someone and DMOZ gets blamed, what a joke and a fool you are.
     
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    #56
    I don't think there's a point in this unproductive exchange anymore. You guys keep repeating the same stuff over and over again (both sides). The guy who started this thread has probably unsubscribed from it, because the whole thing went down the drain after the first few posts.
     
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    #57
    Why blame DMOZ editors when you were foolish enough to pay someone to bribe an editor and then when they took your money and you did not get listed, you blame the DMOZ editor. You were had with a common scam, but you need to blame someone and DMOZ gets blamed, what a joke and a fool you are.



    Actually I think there are rules against you abusing people in the forums. Also where did I say I paid anyone for a link to DMOZ ? I said I paid an SEO guy for services and he said he would include the DMOZ listing because he knows an editor. I had already paid for services and I paid nothing for that. I asked about the yahoo directory, he said he could get me in DMOZ. I knew he was doing to get future business from me. I will be happy to show the page and you can see the last date it was updated. You are free to check my story to see what editor did what on that day. So not only are you an abusive little troll, you like to throw things into a statement . Anyway, you proved my point 100% about DMOZ editors being thought of as rude little piles. Thanks.

    You also spewed out the standard pathetic DMOZ editor spiel also. We should all be so lucky your guys volunteer to do absolutely nothing. Anyway, you are the fool. I obviously was baiting the dumbest editor I could find to prove my points and you bit. You are a swell guy.

    I find it quite amusing that people can go years waiting on a listing to be approved by a DMOZ editor but nobody waits more than 12 hours for any post asking about DMOZ where at least one editor can answer with the standard, we volunteer, we do it for free, we are overwhelmed...blah blah blah.

    They should shut these DMOZ thread down. They obviously all say the same thing and at the end of the day DMOZ editors looks like the biggest wanks in the world everytime with their standard rude remarks. What a waste of time.
     
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    tigrrra Well-Known Member

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    #58
    lol not true im still here... just out of words to be honest there is no point to arguing anymore no matter what the volunteers say DMOZ has become a crap shoot. Only reason I wanted on was that for some damn reason google still gives it juice. No other reason. Its only a matter of time before that changes and every volunteer will stop crying. :)
     
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    #59
    As fas as we know, you are not even an editor. Tell us your editor name and people can find out how many sites you have and how many links you have sold. Are you too scared to give your editor name and what people can find out? ;):)
     
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    #60
    Tell me where I have said I am overwhelmed.
    Spend the next 7 hours writing replies on here. Just thought I would tell you what to do in your spare time, you seem keen to tell editors. Can't write on DP you must be editing. You are a joke.

    I edit when I wish so long as I edit once in 4 months that means I fill my contract with DMOZ. You nor anyone else will successfully tell when where or how I will spend my spare time.

    Tough your site never got listed so far, but you should be warned that people who know people and promise favours risk their sites being banned and if the editor did list the site they would be banned too. Thank goodness the editor was honest and you and your friendly SEO did not get your site in through the back door.
     
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