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Is it illegal to force users to click ads or is it just against the TOS

Discussion in 'Legal Issues' started by NEVERLAST, Jan 15, 2010.

  1. #1
    As the title says is it illegal or just against the TOS (terms of service).I know clicking on your own ads multiple times and hiding behind proxy's is illegal in some states and in the UK as it is Click fraud.Is forcing someone also click fraud as I see a lot of money in this method?
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    NEVERLAST, Jan 15, 2010 IP
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  2. intro

    intro Active Member

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    both, specially adsense rule
     
    intro, Jan 16, 2010 IP
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    lcwadminbj Peon

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    #3
    All I see in this methos is you losing your adsense account (assumint that is what you are talking about.

    I am also very curious as to how you can "Force" anyone to click on ads.

    Based on this post your id is very appropriate - You will never Last on the internet.
     
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    intro Active Member

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    It can be modified very easily Belgian boy :)
    but you are right, he will never made it, banned until $100 for sure lol, and then topic "why ban, can I take $88"
     
    intro, Jan 16, 2010 IP
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    xanth Active Member

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    #5
    Use common sense. If you're hiding behind proxies you know you are doing something wrong and that the advertiser very likely prohibits this. Answer - if you wouldn't accept the behavior and it seems you're trying to get paid for doing almost nothing, chances are it won't fly.
     
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  6. NEVERLAST

    NEVERLAST Greenhorn

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    Ok so it's probable not best idea i was going to make a user click a ad before they can use a service.I just though then I may as well just use CPA to monetize the site.
     
    NEVERLAST, Jan 16, 2010 IP
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    tobycoke Peon

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    #7
    Fraud is illegal. If it is against the TOS and the advertiser pays you money on fraudulent clicks then they could (but not likely) take you to court to recover their losses.
     
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    renlok Well-Known Member

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    forcing someone else to click on an ad although im not sure how you would do it would not be illegal just against the ad providers TOS and youll probably get banned pretty quickly
     
    renlok, Jan 17, 2010 IP
  9. unikkatil_miqi

    unikkatil_miqi Peon

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    #9
    you have no way to click your own ads at google adsense because google finds you.
    even if you don't have cookis, cache or you have proxy he sees your CTR(the size of your screen)
    so there is no way....lol
     
    unikkatil_miqi, Jan 17, 2010 IP
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    webbmaster Peon

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    theft? as in taking money without providing a service ...

    i think the TOS says you can draw special attention to it.. let alone forcing someone to click on it..
     
    webbmaster, Jan 17, 2010 IP
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    DubDubDubDot Peon

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    Manipulating user's computers to take actions that defraud affiliate programs is both against every TOS and illegal. This type of fraud is now on the radar of the US DOJ and there are several known investigations underway (as in, the FBI has kicked doors in already).
     
    DubDubDubDot, Jan 17, 2010 IP
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    #12
    two questions for this question !

    1. Would you like that if you were the advertiser ?
    2. Then why dont you force your customers to buy the advertisers product too ?? ;)

    cheers
    Josh
     
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  13. AFAIK

    AFAIK Peon

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    #13
    This is misleading and wrong reasoning.
    Why do you think spam exists - because many advertisers love and pay it!

    Even if a webmaster comes to an agreement with and please advertisers,
    like, for example, SolveMedia and many other advertising captchas now do,
    it doesn't make spamming, now unavoidavle with ads-captchas, legal.

    The laws om advertising, on providing online services, on information distribution,
    on telecommunications of most countries explicitly prohibit forcing end-users to interact
    with advertising without latter prior explicit agreeing with it
    and having possibility to reject/unsubscribe from it


    See more on it in my blog (a link in my profile).
     
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    AFAIK, Sep 8, 2011 IP
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    wptheme Well-Known Member

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    And you decided to bring back a nearly 2 years old thread for the sake of...well.. spam?
     
    wptheme, Sep 9, 2011 IP
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    g36 Peon

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    I don't think there's specific law for that so it may not be illegal.
     
    g36, Sep 9, 2011 IP
  16. AFAIK

    AFAIK Peon

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    #16
    Even very fast search gives, for ex.
    (cannot insert link to article, it is entitled:
    "Privacy Policies and Internet Advertising Law" from verio dot com site):
    As far as I understand English, this article implies the right of user, backed up by law, to close or avoid advertising?

    This is quite similar to laws of other countries prohibiting invasive advertising and/or ads without opt-out and/or ads ignoring the right to skip it which is the case with ads-captcha.
    The latter is not only intrusive but simply unavoidable in accessing certain web resources
     
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    vpsrack Peon

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    #17
    Its a pretty bad idea to click on your own ads. Plus don't put "Click on advertisements" they can auto detect those. If you do those you just gonna end up loosing your site.

    Plus they are reviewing adsense accounts manually these days, so stay away from any sort of invalid click generation.
     
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    EpicShred Peon

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    #18
    Clicking on your own ads is pretty much always against the TOS, no matter who you work with. A lot of CPA networks frown on you paying people to click on your links too or have limited offers that can be incentivized.

    What you may want to consider is looking into a content locker. There are specific content locker networks that specialize in this approach & provide you w/the code you’ll need to lock content on your site so that it is only accessible after the visitor completes an offer. I’m sure you’ve stumbled onto one of these kind of sites before. Just be creative & don't mess w/copywrite material for your content.
     
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    AFAIK Peon

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    Who will detect "Click on advertisement"?
    if a user has no choice when he is to pass CAPTCHA with advertising where he should interact with ads
    (assemble advertising picture puzzle or enter advertising text from advertising on captcha)?
     
    AFAIK, Sep 9, 2011 IP