Is .htm worth it?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by subnet_rx, May 25, 2005.

  1. NewComputer

    NewComputer Well-Known Member

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    That's a nice article, NC -- bookmarked it for future reference. Thanks!
     
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    No problem,

    I have used it quite a bit and it is easy as pie. I am not sure how it compares to Able2KNow's (I have heard this was the best one, but never researched it)

    But the one I posted works well.
     
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    It looks to be basically the same ideas but the article explains why it's doing things in very clear terms. I've bookmarked it because I think that will be more useful to pass along to others looking to optimize phpBB forums... Craven de Kere (Able2Know) is a very smart guy but not as good a communicator (for one thing I don't think English is his first language) and I think his 5-part SEO mod is overkill after parts 1 and 2.
     
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  5. Tuning

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    What NC suggested article says is almost done in able2know mod. The difference is only in robots.txt. [ Its obvious as the files and extensions are different when applying able2mod.]
     
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  6. minstrel

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    Yes. That's what I said, Tuning. The main difference is that this rticle lays out the rationale for why you should do what in very clear terms. That, to me, makes it valuable as a resource for giving to other people who ask the question.

    That, and, as I said, I think the "advanced" parts of de Kere's mod are overkill.
     
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  8. minstrel

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    No. It looks like that requires the bots mod. I had an earlier beta version of that mod installed and discovered it was presenting only error pages to Googlebot (and perhaps other spiders too) so I uninstalled it. I'm told a later release of the mod fixed this but after a month of declining Googlebot visits before I discovered the reason, I'm in no hurry -- I'll wait until the approved release, if at all.
     
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    I think the simplicity of the one I suggested is the key. Most people who are not going to spend money on VB are going to use PHPBB, and as such, need a cheaper and easier solution.
     
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    @ minstrel

    ooh, your right about dynamic pages being indexed by google...
    but what are the factors that can make dynamic pages outperform html pages ?
     
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    how do you use subdomain? I know about mod rewrite but sub domain? never tried anything
     
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    New content and lots of it will help... interlinking between related topics on the site...

    What sort of site is it?
     
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    #33
    let's say an article site like articlecity... do you mean if i use xoops or xaraya i still have a chance to place as well as a site made purely with htm?
     
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    #34
    Yes, dynamic pages are indexed in G.
    Go beyond a certain number of query parameters and things start getting flakey.
    I don't know whether it's actually the number of characters in the query string or the number of parameters that really matter.
    Personally, I'd prefer to stick with html endings - people stand a chance of remembering them :)
     
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    I don't think most people find specific pages by typing in the URL anyway... domains, yes, but nor pages within the domain. They'll either bookmark a specific page, in which case it doesn't matter what the filename is, or they'll find it via search or site search, in which case what will be most important is page title, on-page content, and anchor text.
     
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    I've never used either xoops or xaraya...
     
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    would a cms that made dynamic pages that are seo-friendly which look like

    site.com/sub/dynamicpage

    work as well as:

    site.com/sub/staticpage.htm

    ???
     
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  18. minstrel

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    #38
    In my opinion, all other things being equal and paying attention to the comments above about session IDs and long variable lists, yes... whether the filename is .html or .php is not the important factor at all.
     
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    One thing I have noticed - just today. If you mod_rewrite so that the url ends in index.html (ie www.domain/dir/subdir/index.html) then Gbot drops the index.html when attempting to crawl the site :(.
    So you need to make sure you mod_rewrite the directory as well ie make sure www.domain/dir/subdir/ points to the same place as www.domain/dir/subdir/index.html
    I wasn't expecting Gbot to have visited this site yet - I only put it up yesterday and only added a couple of links to it today. Wasn't expecting the damn thing to start crawling just yet.
     
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    Never underestimate the proficiency of Google! He will surprise you every time!
     
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