is H2 is better than H1?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by m0b1us, Apr 14, 2008.

  1. #1
    i just read some book of SEO and got an information about Tag H1 and H2. it just said that H2 is more effective with keyword ranking than H1 is it true? and it is the update one google Search Engine more like H2 better than h1?
     
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  2. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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  3. Dan Schulz

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    Agreed. Learn how to use headings properly, and then learn how to maximize the impact they can have on both the search engines and your site's users. The links that ssandecki gave you will help get you started on that path to success.
     
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    camp185 Well-Known Member

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    I have done countless analyses on sites that go straight for h2 without even using h1. Proof many people do not even know how to use a heading tag, and have heard the same information.
     
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    #5
    It's not always to use this tags, proper headings for the page works.
    Thanks for the useful links ssndecki
     
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    #6
    I always thought that you should only use H1-6 once in the site.

    It seems that it's suggested to do something like:

    <h1>title</h1>
      <h2>heading</h2>
        <h3>...</h3> <!-- can use either h3 or p tags (?) -->
      <h2>heading 2</h2>
        <h3>...</h3>
      <h2>heading 3</h2>
        <h3>...</h3>
    Code (markup):
    Is that suggestible and valid? can you use multiple H2/H3 tags?
     
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  7. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    #7
    Review the links I provided above, heading tags are used to structure contact on a web page. Think beyond the "SEO" value and worry about user visability and useability; what REALLY counts anyways.
     
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  8. Dan Schulz

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    The H3s would have to be used twice per H2, and they would be used as headings, not paragraphs. The paragraphs would be the meat and potatoes of that section of the page.
     
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    Just think of them as an outline, and the number indicates the level of the outline. Obviously you can not start with h2 without first using an h1.
     
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    #10
    I agree with ssandecki - focus on semantics and not on SEO. Its a better user experience, and at the end of the day proper semantics are what the bots are looking for anyways.

    If an algo wants to weed out webmasters gaming the system, the best place to start would be sites using semantic tags improperly.
     
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    Actually George, they're looking for the most relevant content - the semantics help define the nature of that content, making it easier for them to understand and process the information they index.
     
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    #12
    h1 is very important for your documents, so the SE Bot knows what it is about. h1 is the Tag that is most important to a SE Bot so it knows what your document is about. Only use it once per page though.
    You can even turn a h1 tag into a Image using CSS. That way you can have the benefit of an anesthetic appealing h1 tag. Without a giant H1 title.
     
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    #13
    Okay - some of this makes sense now...

    I know that H1 should only be used once. But is using multiple H2s and H3s valid? I always try to write W3C-valid code.
     
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    Ummm, ya have you been listening to Dan or I and reviewing our links and resources we are providing?
     
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    #15
    Yes, it is. Make sure you use at least two H2-H6 (in order) for each higher heading you use though.

    For example,

    
    H1
    (content)
    	H2
    	(content)
    	H2
    	(content)
    		H3
    		(content)
    		H3
    		(content)
    	H2
    	(content)
    
    Code (markup):
    is semantically valid, while

    
    H1
    (content)
    	H2
    	(content)
    		H3
    		(content)
    	H2
    	(content)
    
    Code (markup):
    while being valid HTML, is not semantically correct.
     
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    #16
    That makes a lot of sense.

    I read the articles (well, one of them didn't load) but there seemed to be conflicting views when reading the comments. I trust people on this forum more than I do on a random blog. You guys know what you're talking about...

    Thanks for all the help.
     
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    #17
    Header 1 carries the most good weight.

    Then followed by the rest.
     
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    #18
    How can H2 be better? H1 has more emphasis.
     
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    m0b1us Active Member

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    #20
    just looking for ssandecki article

    <h1></h1> ... <h6></h6> Web Browser Support:
    * Netscape 2, 3, 4, 6, 7
    * Mozilla 1
    * Firefox 1
    * Internet Explorer 2, 3, 4, 5, 6
    * Opera 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8
    * Safari 1

    i thought it make sense many people using internet explorer and H2 it's more effective it, if our market/visitor is using internet explorer or netscape
     
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