Is Google's PageRank working properly?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by electroze, Sep 22, 2011.

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    How is it possible for a 3 month old webpage with no content and no external incoming links to suddenly have a PR of 5?

    It's simply a page with a common header/footer, it's linked to only internally from an existing PR4 site, but the guts of this page is only an iframe of an Amazon store. This is the page: http://www.kingjamesbibleonline.org/King-James-Bibles/ There is practically zero content, and nothing unique about it. PR5? I've NEVER had PR5 on this site and if I ever did, this should be the last page to ever get it. Is PageRank broken, or am I missing something?

    This odd PageRank behavior is not specific to this domain, I also have other domains with no incoming links, virtually no content, 6 month old domain, had no PageRank anywhere on any of domain's pages, it only linked externally to 1 site, but it suddenly got a PR of 3 just out of the blue. Is PageRank now rewarding a site by simply linking out to a relevant site? It seems contradictory to all the hard work I've put into SEO, links for the last 10 years (with some sites that still only have PR0 and PR1), and I'm wondering what's happening here with these random sites that seem to rank for apparently no reason?
     
    electroze, Sep 22, 2011 IP
  2. ElectricChoice

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    A) You can't "link internally" from another site. did you mean inbound link from an external PR4?
    B) The link you posted is the odd PR5 you're talking about? It's a PR4, actually. And it does have content. doesn't seem too far fetched that it has a decent PR
    C) pagerank can be passed like link juice, and there are MANY factors that contribute to PR, but you have only addressed a couple.
    D) There's a difference between PR and toolbar PR.

    so... I don't think pagerank is broken, and yes... outbound links CAN help you. Need proof? There's one website on the internet that displays more outbound links than ANY other site on the internet, maybe you've heard of it- it's called Google.com . And they have a PR of 10.
     
    ElectricChoice, Sep 22, 2011 IP
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    Agreed - I don't think this suggests that page rank is broken. Does seem a little high of a ranking.
     
    tritownmedia12, Sep 22, 2011 IP
  4. electroze

    electroze Active Member

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    Hi ElectricChoice, thanks for your input. Here's the explanation for your points:

    A. I did not link internally from "another" site. I wrote that its linked 'internally from an existing PR4 site'- I was stating that the site its on is PR4 on the home page, so I consider it a PR4 site. The page within the site had no PR, because it was new. It was only linked internally, not from any other site.
    B. Nope. It has virtually no content and is PR5. Look at the code, like already said it is an Amazon store, but that content is within an iframe, so it's similar to being invisible to Google.
    C. There are no other factors affecting this page in this situation. It is not linked to from anything other than internally.
    D. I have checked PR outside the toolbar and get the same PR5 value.

    Google has an insane amount of incoming links too and naturally they'll set itself as the top most bar at 10, whether it has to be overridden to be that value or naturally that way. Yahoo is virtually the same external links and is PR9 and Bing is PR8. I'm sure if Bing was supposed to a 10, they'd probably make it lower in spite.
     
    electroze, Sep 23, 2011 IP
  5. BenRacicot

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    That's some crazy stuff going on... But&nbsp;according&nbsp;to some research and a common "problem" I have it can happen. I had a page which was my first website/domain. whatisthesite.com.<br>It had a static page, a embedded video from YT and links out to the video projects social media such as Vimeo and Facebook. Thus it had links in from these social medias. So by my count 3 links in.<br>Facebook, YT, Vimeo and NO content. It became a PR2 after a year of nothingness... The link below is a calculator based on how link juice works... I'm really new at this but your site being a PR4 on the main page<br>must be linking to your page with just an Iframe right? Any other sites linking to it even links from within pass on link juice as far as I have learned. Let me know what you find. Here's the original Google&nbsp;algorithm&nbsp;BTW&nbsp;<a name="how_is_pagerank_calculated"><p style="display: inline !important; "><font color="green">PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))</font></p></a><br><a href="http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank_calculator.php">http://www.webworkshop.net/pagerank_calculator.php</a>
     
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  6. tadsam12

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    I don't think so that page rank is brake
     
    tadsam12, Oct 5, 2011 IP