Is Google Penalising Text-Link-Ads Publisher?

Discussion in 'SEO' started by *Mayank*, Jan 26, 2008.

  1. #1
    Is anyone using text link ads as a publisher and selling links and got penalised?

    Is google really doing it? I am afraid to use them. Please help.
     
    *Mayank*, Jan 26, 2008 IP
  2. eyezshine

    eyezshine Active Member

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    How could google know?
     
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  3. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    There is a report Paid Link in the Search functions, if there are people who reported, I guess Google can know.
     
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    eyezshine Active Member

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    I can't figure out why people put up with googles rules on paid links? People should be able to buy and sell links all they want! Without worrying about getting penalized. I'm sorry but google is getting overly rediculous with their linking policies.
     
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  5. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    Issue is MSN and Yahoo can't put a dent on Google powerful search and Adsense therefore they are a virtual monopoly and can do what they want.
    We would still happily use Google and pay them for the Adwords and wait for their Adsense cheques.

     
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  6. *Mayank*

    *Mayank* Notable Member

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    No No.
    I dont know then how text link ads function. I thought it worked like something on that I saw at Johnchow.com...get featured here and that goes to TLA's site. So, if we have to place such a link that goes to TLA website, ofcourse google would know.
     
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  7. astup1didiot

    astup1didiot Notable Member

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    I don't know, could it be the fact that text links are actually a way to manipulate the search engine results and pagerank? Remember, if you want to be listed in the Google search index you must follow their rules, its a free service they provide and can set whatever rules they like.

    Second, if you think text links are maniplation then think about this.... When you purchase a link you get to select your anchor text and the URL it points to. This will not only increase your pagerank but also provide SEO value in search engine results. That would be called manipulating or cheating.

    Lets take it your way, lets say Google goes "Alright everyone, text links are legal". Then the only sites ranking at the top of search engines would be the ones with the biggest pockets, you could just buy your way to the top of search engines and eliminate the entire concept of the search engine.

    So, personally I feel zero remorse for anyone who complains about Google doing this, to protect the integrity of its search results it must. You should find another legal and non-manipulative method to increase your pagerank, SERPs and gain revenue.

    </rant>
     
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    No Problem with Text Link Ads

    I had Text-link-Ads on one of my sites and It is still PR4 and it ranks Good in serps


    No way Google can detect paid text links and using Text links to manipulate the SE' results is a cruel joke.It simply shows that Google is not the best ever search engine...
     
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  9. Ganceann

    Ganceann Peon

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    My thoughts on this are in the interests of disclosure of whether a link is paid for or is organically linked to.

    Google would look at penalizing the sites that do not disclose that they are paid links... and would not penalize a site that state the links are paid links.

    Simply put, if you have rel=nofollow on a paid link, you SHOULDN'T fear any reprisal from Google penalizing your site as they will not pass pagerank to sites with rel=nofollow. Text-links will still provide the benefit of interested visitors following the link and going to the site if it interests them, but it wouldn't help the site rank higher in the search results.

    The battle Google is having is to prevent people manipulating results by paying for higher placement through paid text links. They are a virtual monopoly and people need to play by their rules - or face their wrath.

    The thing that Google needs to do is state something along the lines of - failing to disclose a link as a paid link may result in your site being penalized.
     
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  10. astup1didiot

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    How do you assume using text links to manipulate search results is a joke? :rolleyes:

    One of the "best" SEO practices is to build backlinks with your keyword or phrase as your anchor text your trying to rank for. Why do this, of course to increase our inbound links with that specific keyword and phrase as the anchor text.

    So, now what happens when someone buys a text link? They provide their anchor text and URL and its displayed on a site of their choice, for payment. Which means if a company had the money they could buy all the backlinks they wanted, with the anchor text they wanted. Which in turn WOULD affect the search engine results.

    To honestly believe that text links cannot be used to alter search engine results is silly. People buy them for Pagerank and keyword specific anchor text backlinks. If you TRUELY just bought text links for traffic the ref=nofollow tag should be of no concern to you.
     
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    "Is Google Penalising Text-Link-Ads Publisher?"

    Yes. Perhaps they have people who sign up and get a list of all the publishers. Perhaps they detect some fingerprint.
     
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    There's no evidence to support the theory of penalizing because of text ad links
     
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    What if someone purposely put anyone's site in there to get it penalised? :confused:
     
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    I agree! I'm not going to do what ever Google says!
     
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    Then lets hope we don't see you complaining or ranting in the future how Google penalized, de-indexed or de-ranked your site.
     
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    According to my experience, they certainly do. I have seen sites selling links thru that site that dropped to PR7 to PR4-3, which for these instances nowhere near possible according to commonly known rules.
     
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    mikey1090 Moderator Staff

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    google is penalizing all sites selling links, so yes, TLA publishers will get slapped down.
     
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    What you understood was completely wrong!


    A good search engine would never lay any rules like this (Do n't buy text linksetc.,),It should come up with good results irrespective of the methods followed by webmasters....But here this is not the case (Google is not the best ever)


    I am talking about a good Search Engine and how it should be
     
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    I thought there was no question to ASK about it. Google has been tracking all TLA clents since last August ( I have been punished too). Anybody- whose revenue is dependent on almighty :)mad:) Google must avoid TLA.
     
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    What can a good search engine do if people wish to find a way around its algorithm, at all costs ? Webmasters are human, and the search engines at the end of the day, only have bots at their disposal.

    Google wants its results to be as naturally made as possible, and if you are blatantly announcing that you are selling links for pagerank, then trouble will come knocking on your doorstep sooner or later.

    Everybody needs and does SEO in some form or the other. At the end of the day, you need that combination of SEO and a good site for the customers to succeed. You may argue that some sites who have bought links by the dozen are topping the results , but a search will also reveal that they work hard to make the customer happy. It is the sites that aren't actually good for the customer, but simply do things to boost their own pagerank so that they can use it to make money that need to be reminded of the primary reason for the existence of the internet.

    You can call the guidelines that Google lays down rules- but it is ultimately up to you whether you want to follow them or not.

    And if the Google results were not in the least influenced by what webmasters did, why would webmasters exist in the first place ?
     
    gr8liverpoolfan, Jan 27, 2008 IP