Is Google not banning people for invalid clicks?

Discussion in 'Guidelines / Compliance' started by AdsenseAddict, Jan 18, 2006.

  1. #1
    G said that invalid clicks will not be counted and therefore will not give you any earnings. Will they still ban people for this? I mean the invalid clicks never count so all they could is not give credit for publishers.
     
    AdsenseAddict, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  2. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    Yes Google bans for invalid clicks. Read the threads on the subject here.

    Shannon
     
    Smyrl, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  3. AdsenseAddict

    AdsenseAddict Peon

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    but why??? all they could do is deduct the earnings and give the money back to advertisers. they don't have to respond to thousands of publisher complaints saying their innocent of this activity.
     
    AdsenseAddict, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  4. yfs1

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    Because they don't detect 100% of bad clicks so if there was no ban, what would stop people from clicking 1000's of times and wasting resources.

    Why should Google have to give Credits, etc. If they ban these people, problem solved at that time and for the future
     
    yfs1, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  5. AdsenseAddict

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    But I think it's unfair for honest publishers don't you think?
     
    AdsenseAddict, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    No, I don't...Honest publishers don't get banned

    If their account is suspended for suspected clicks, it will be reinstated if they didn't do anything wrong
     
    yfs1, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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  7. AdsenseAddict

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    They will be but they will lose their money. And for the record, Honest publishers get banned!
     
    AdsenseAddict, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    They get it back though. The publisher agreed to the TOS so they have to live with it

    For the record :confused:

    There are several guidelines to reinclusion but I have yet to hear from a publisher I trust that they were banned unfairly and not reinstated. I know a LOT of publishers that have gotten the automated suspension but every single one was readmitted

    What you are proposing would bring widespread fraud as there would be no penalty for breaking the TOS...Its bad enough as it is
     
    yfs1, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  9. alext

    alext Active Member

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    As far as banning reports go in this forum, every post I have looked into (not that many) resulted in:

    a) The webmaster admitting they broke the ToS
    b) The webmaster breaking the ToS without knowing (a co-worker did it, didn't know the rules etc)

    There may be cases where "honest webmasters" have been banned due to excessive fraudulent clicks but it doesn't seem very common.

    As far as Google banning self-clickers - the argument seems to be, "Why should I get in trouble? You caught me! I should only be punished when I do not get caught!"
     
    alext, Jan 18, 2006 IP
  10. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    The real question is. Why would you want to click on your own ads? If you are REALLY that interested in what the ads have to offer there are other ways in finding out the URL of that specific ad, without clicking on it.
     
    Crusader, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    It's much easier to kick out the fraudster who won't contest it (because they know they're guilty) than it is to invalidate fraudulant clicks but keep the publisher in. If you get axed, ask to be reinstated and if you're honest then you're likely back in.
     
    bargainr, Jan 18, 2006 IP
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    guitarjunkie66 Well-Known Member

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    if you are an honest publisher, and you click them by accident, emailing them and asking them to take away your clicks is the best, and fairest method

    If you are as far as banned, not just clicks removed, then you must've done bad
     
    guitarjunkie66, Jan 19, 2006 IP
  13. marketing

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    so how the heck do they determine what a bad click is?
     
    marketing, Jan 19, 2006 IP
  14. Crusader

    Crusader Peon

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    They make use of various methods to do this. For obvious reasons they DEFINETLY won't make it public on how it gets done. Just rest assurred that they can detect it.
     
    Crusader, Jan 20, 2006 IP
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    IP address's for one thing. They know what PC's you use to log into your adsense account. They log these IP's and If a click comes from that IP they can pretty much assume it was you. If this happens you will notice 1 click and $0.00 in your account. This is done automatically with no intervention from anyone at google.

    Or if a single IP clicks on about 100 ads that is pretty much a dead give away. G is not stupid and if you are cheating the system they will find out and you will get banned.

    As far as honest publishers getting banned...I have unintentionally clicked on ads on my site (darn laptop touch pad!!!!). However, immidiately upon doing so I send an email to G explaining what happened. That is what honest publishers do. Even if it was an accident you should not blow it off and say oh well.
     
    knowvak, Jan 20, 2006 IP
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    #16
    For 1 or 2 accidental clicks they send a warning letter, then they ban you. It also depends on the quality of your websites
     
    dnk, Jan 21, 2006 IP
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    #17
    i m aslo the victom of invalid clicks
    google banned me twice because of invalid clicks
     
    kaash, Aug 28, 2007 IP
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    #18
    if the invalid clicks are created by you or your workers, google will ban you .
     
    trichnosis, Aug 29, 2007 IP
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    or you will get banned even if someone bombed you with clicks!!! THATS UNFAIR!!!
     
    Giorgi, Aug 30, 2007 IP
  20. MayurGondaliya

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    #20
    Honest publishers never get banned. Google seldom bans the publishers due to this thing.
     
    MayurGondaliya, Sep 2, 2007 IP