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Is FREEBIE bookshop a scam?

Discussion in 'Products & Tools' started by Linkbacker, Apr 8, 2005.

  1. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #21
    How clever, a typo and the author gets 100% of the profit.

    This must be a "mistake" just like the NOFOLLOW tags were? This guy is using you people, he's a rip off. There "I" said it.

    I saw him crying that someone modded the code and they should remove it in a fit of copyright infringement. But the copyright is a complete rip off as it misrepresents the code. It can not be enforceable IMO since it is a lie. But I'm no attorney.

    I wonder if all of you will get a check for the 50% you didn't recieve? It's in his contract, read copyright, that for running his software you split the profit. I wonder if he'll uphold that part of the copyright and repay you or only the part of the copyright where he can make people remove it for modding the code?
    SEMrush
     
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  2. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #22
    I am also using a older version of freebie, I just downloaded the latest version and I don't really know where the affialte check is in the new one, so .... this might have been just been a mistake on the earlier version.
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    LOL!!!

    ROFL!!!

    Can't breathe!
     
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  4. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #24
    Yeah, I bet all the people that got scammed are laughing real hard too.

    What a cheat! No let me put it bluntly, the author of FREEBIE is a scammer IMO. From NOFOLLOW tags, munged useless keyword text, and now this.

    And all along his associate ID was correct and his link backs were correct while your's were useless, what a coincidence, huh?

    Glad he got caught.
     
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  5. Jim bob 9 pants

    Jim bob 9 pants Peon

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    #25
    Well I must say the evidience looks bad about FREEBIE, wish I understood it fully!

    I am laughing, takes alot more than this to worry me! good old fashioned British sense of humor
     
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  6. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #26
    Don't worry a replacement is on the way that you can have 100% of the profit of and sales from and all the pages for content.


    • No profit sharing.
    • No phone home code.
    • No munged keyword text.
    • Use your site's style/HTML 100%.
    • Only one link back, not hundreds or thousands.
    • Public code completly commented.

    I will be asking for one link back on one page, the main page, of my book store. Fair enough?
     
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  7. Jim bob 9 pants

    Jim bob 9 pants Peon

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    #27
    look forward to seeing it, would i be able to use my current sql database? if I liked it?
     
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  8. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #28
    Yes you can, all you have to do is use the existing table prefix or change it to your own unique table prefix so you can identify the FREEBS tables in that DB and you don't have table name conflicts.

    FREEBS == Free Book Store. :D
     
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  9. l234244

    l234244 Peon

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    #29
    Thats what I classify as a Freebie tool, look forward to seeing it noppid :)

    PS - what is this phone home code?
     
    l234244, Apr 9, 2005 IP
  10. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #30
    How can someone who offers you free software, intended to increase your pagecount, be called such bad things? He's not a rip off since you didn't pay him for the privilege. He isn't a cheat; you don't have to play his game and use the software. He isn't a scammer; he gives you free software that works the way it's advertised.

    I quote from the software page (my bolding):

    And...

    Based on that your attack is unsubstantiated.

    The quotation and bulleted issue, if existant indeed, is trivial since the real Googlers know that they are regarded as spacers and left totally out of the equation when it comes to ranking.

    The 50-50 split code error is found in an old version. Owlcroft brings out regular updates and is open to any feedback. I bet the thread starter, nor Noppid, has never had the courtesy to take the small effort of dropping Owlcroft a line.

    I had a look and the error is still present in the latest download, frreebie.inc line 247 to 255:

      //       set id for this use:
      if (trim($myid)==NULL)
      {
        $myid=$owlcroft;
       } else {
        // (user has Amazon ID)
        $dice=rand(0,1); 
        if ($dice=1) $myid=$owlcroft; //As identified by Ferret, this is always TRUE
      }
    PHP:
    I'm sure he will fix it quickly but still, this is not what the script is for. It's not meant to be an affiliate shop as such. It's meant generate lots of fresh content so you can have links from it or run the Co-op or just for the fact that SE's love big sites.

    How dare you call someone who gives away 1000s of lines of code away for free a scammer.
     
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  11. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #31
    I am not a coder and I know that there are some intelligent people involved in this discussion, what we need to do at this point is give Owlcroft time to answer these charges that are brought up here.

    Until then it would be wrong for any of us to judge the matter :eek:
     
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  12. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #32
    I've emailed him...
     
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  13. ferret77

    ferret77 Heretic

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    #33
    I'm really happy with the software, but its says we will split commissions 50/50

    The software also gives him a link on every page generated by it
     
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    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #34
    Well I stand by my words. It's a rip off. PERIOD.

    I refuse to accept these things as "mistakes". Give me a break already.

    I called the guy and told him the software is basically crap designed around a good idea on the phone, but he know's it all. I was of no influence.
     
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  15. anthonycea

    anthonycea Banned

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    #35
    You bring up good points, he is an old time respected member here so we have to give him a chance to answer Noppid. :eek:
     
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    Bulldog San Peon

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    #36
    Eric has been extremely helpful helping me set up the bookshop and working to get new updates set up. I don't care about selling books, it's the pagecount that matters - like he says.

    I'm willing to wait on the pages to show up. Just a matter of patience.
     
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    anthonycea Banned

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    #37
    Bulldog, explain to us who are not using this why we should use it, just to create content for what?

    ADSENSE

    AFFILIATE PROGRAM BANNERS

    :confused:
     
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  18. ResaleBroker

    ResaleBroker Active Member

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    #38
    I recently revamped my sites and no longer use the program but Google is still showing at least 4,000 pages from the bookshop.

    Owlcroft has never been anything but helpful and I find it more than hard to believe that his intentions were anything but honorable. To post that he is a "Scammer" and a "Cheat" is not cool.

    BTW, the negative rep that you just got that said, "Not Cool" was from me.
     
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  19. Jim bob 9 pants

    Jim bob 9 pants Peon

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    #39
    It is my understanding that google and other top se like BIG sites, hence this script increases the "volume" of your web site, also to me it seems a good median to improve my weight in the co-op

    Dont argue ant. as I do not have the answers, purley trying to learn by experiment
     
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  20. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #40
    Tops30:

    A truly excellent post.

    Emotionally moving to please the right brain; Factually correct and logically sound to please the left brain.

    Thank you.
     
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