Is Free Tibet that important?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ahkip, Apr 7, 2008.

  1. harshakiran

    harshakiran Notable Member

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    #21
    In reality that day is no near : china to harsh on them
     
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  2. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #22
    Sad to say it is true, but as Chinese prospers, their own citizens will clamor for more rights and hopefully these will be passed on to the Tibetans and other minority races in China.

     
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  3. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #23
    I do not think so, as a Chinese people live in Lhasa.We have better life than before, and all of people aroud me support our government.

    Welcome to China to learn the truth of China.

    Sorry for poor English.
    大家好,我来自中国拉萨。很高兴在此与大家交流,我在这里想告诉大家,我爱我的祖国-中国,我反对西方媒体的一些不实报道误导西方朋友,拉萨和人权并不象西方媒体描述的那样。现在中国发展很快,人民的生活水平日益提高,我们享受着以前从来没有的精神和物质财富。

    希望我说的这些能让大家更了解中国,欢迎来中国做客,了解真实的中国!
     
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  4. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #24
    i bet you are Chinese instead of Tibetan



     
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  5. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #25
    I'd like to tell you Tibetan is Chinese people! I am han nationality. China have 56 nationalities, including Han nationality, zhuang nationality and tibetan nationality etc......and we all united as Chinese people.

    我想告诉你西藏人也属于中国人,我自身属于汉族人。 你需要知道,中国是由56个名族所组成,其中包含汉族,壮族,藏族等等。 56个名族合在一起组成了我的祖国--中国!
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #26
    Would you not agree that the essence of the dispute is that the peoples of Tibetan nationality do not want to be part of the united Chinese people. They would prefer to be independent of China or at least autonomous.

    China is a beautiful country. I have been many times. I have never been to Tibet, but I have always enjoyed visiting mainland China and the people were always very friendly.
     
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  7. harshakiran

    harshakiran Notable Member

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    #27
    why do u want them to force to unite

    harsha
     
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  8. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #28
    Most of people in Lhasa would like to be a part of the united Chinese people except DALAI LAMA. Our economic develop very quickly and we live a better life than before,we also have more rights than before. I am proud of to be a Chinese people, and I do believe our motherland would be the next super power in the world.

    西藏自古以来就是中国的领土,我个人认为拉萨的绝大多数群众都愿意在中国政府的领导下过上更民主,富裕的生活。我们有比以往任何历史时刻都享有更多的权利和更好的生活。 我很自豪自己是名中国人,我也相信我的祖国会更强大。
     
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  9. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #29
    PROOF PLEASE

    you don't even live in Tibet liar (you name sold you out, that's not a tibetant name, and you live in http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hubei)

    I am Chinese and i am ashame to be one because of people like you
     
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  10. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #30
    In my own opinion,our government do not force anyone. Dalai Lama just want to recover his dominion in Tibet,and they use violence to common Chinese people in Lhasa.Every responsible government would take action.

    我个人认为,中国政府并没有强迫任何人。事实是达赖喇嘛想恢复他在西藏的统治,而且他对西藏平民百姓施加武力打砸烧抢。
     
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  11. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #31
    Why I say that because I am living in China Hubei province at this time. I know more information than you.

    Where are you from?

    我来自中国,是否现在在西藏很重要吗?我认为我比你更了解中国。

    你来自那里?
     
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  12. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #32
    This is your own word "as a Chinese people live in Lhasa." "我来自中国拉萨".

    And no, you don't know my motherland more than me cause all you know is what the Chinese government feed you. And the government are hiding the turth
     
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  13. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #33
    I'd like to tell you my hometown located in Tibet, so I say I am from there. I have some classmates living in there. I just graduated from university in 2003 and work in Hubei now.

    I am confused where is your motherland. In fact, we all Chinese people, am I right?

    Do you know the truth?From western media? Do you know what's the opinion of Chinese people living in China regarding this issue??

    I do believe you do not know!!!

    我现在在湖北工作,我来自西藏自治区。

    我很奇怪,你是中国人吗?

    你从那里得来的真相?西方媒体?你知道中国的主流民意是如何看待这件事的吗?

    我相信你一无所知!!!
     
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  14. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #34
    so you claim you are from tibet:D

    and i just saw you picture. you look nothing like tibetan..
     
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    wuweichao Peon

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    #35
    I am confused if you are from China.

    Many different nationalities Chinese people living in Tibet, including Han nationality,zhuang nationality and Tibetan nationlity etc.......
     
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  16. wisdomtool

    wisdomtool Moderator Staff

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    #36
    Are you a majority Han in Tibet or one of the Tibetans?

     
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    unlockediphonesite.com Active Member

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    #37
    Many people dislike China and the way it puts down revolutions by killing lots of people, and Tibet is a prime example of it and people are protesting.

    I predict that eventually like in about 50 years China will have the same thing as Russia.
     
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  18. wuweichao

    wuweichao Peon

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    #38
    I am not sure, maybe it will also happen in USA. But I believe we all hope peaceful in the world.

    We have different culture and value,but we should respect each other.

    An artical from Washington post: 2008-04-09. Let's have a look!

    Let the Games Go On

      By Joan Chen

      Wednesday, April 9, 2008; A19

      I was born in Shanghai in 1961 and grew up during the Cultural Revolution. During my childhood, I saw my family lose our house. My grandfather, who studied medicine in England, committed suicide after he was wrongly accused of being a counterrevolutionary and a foreign spy.

      Those were the worst of times.

      Since the Cultural Revolution ended in the late 1970s, however, I have witnessed unimaginable progress in China. Changes that few ever thought possible have occurred in a single generation. A communist government that had no ties to the West has evolved into a more open government eager to join the international community.

      A state-controlled economy has morphed into a market economy, greatly raising people's standard of living. It's clear that the majority of the Chinese people enjoy much fuller, more abundant lives today than 30 years ago. Though much remains to be done, the Chinese government has made rapid progress in opening up and trying to be part of the international community.Last month I went to China and spent four weeks visiting Shanghai, Beijing, Hong Kong and Chengdu. The people I met and spoke with are proud and excited about the Beijing Games. They believe that the Olympics are a wonderful opportunity to showcase modern China to the rest of the world. Like many Americans, most Chinese people are disturbed by the recent events in Tibet. But after watching the scenes of violence and arson by the rioters, the Chinese believe that the government is doing the right thing in cracking down to restore order.

      The Olympic torch is in California and is to be carried through San Francisco today. In a resolution criticizing China, Chris Daly, a member of the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, said that demonstrating against the torch relay would "provide the people of San Francisco with a lifetime opportunity to help 1.3 billion Chinese people gain more freedom and rights." To his credit, Mayor Gavin Newsom did not sign Daly's resolution.

      This statement could not be further from reality. For one thing, the Chinese are a proud people. They want freedom and greater rights, but they know they must fight for them from within. They know that no one can grant them freedom and rights from afar. The stigma of Western imperialism and the Opium Wars also remains a strong reminder of the past, and Chinese people do not want their domestic policies to be dictated by outside powers. They also do not want the United States to boycott the opening ceremonies of the Games. The U.S. boycott of the 1980 Games in Moscow and the Soviet boycott of the 1984 Olympics in Los Angeles accomplished nothing. A U.S. boycott of the opening ceremonies in Beijing would be counterproductive for relations between the two countries.

      For decades, anti-China human rights groups in Washington have spent millions of dollars denouncing China. To many Chinese, it seems that this lobby is the only voice that's acceptable or newsworthy in the U.S. media and to the U.S. government. But times are changing. We need to be open-minded and farsighted. We need to make more friends than enemies. Remember what a little ping-pong game did for Sino-U.S. relations in the 1970s? Let's celebrate the Olympics for what the Games are meant to be -- a bridge for friendship, not a playground for politics.

      The writer is an actress and director. She became a U.S. citizen in 1989.
     
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    zcy3270 Active Member

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    #39
    200+ millions people live in tibet, and only no more than 10000 people attend the Riots, so can this represents all tibetians don't like the Status Quo? Western goverment and some human right "Warriors" only care dalailama and his followers, who care those Ordinary people be killed in the riosts and who care the feeling of 13 billions chinese people? It's funny,those offspring of Slave traders or those who launched two world wars think they have the highest moral standard.
     
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    :eek:Didn't know we had that many people in the world.:eek:

     
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