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Is DMOZ still alive?

Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Karolwf, Oct 22, 2011.

  1. RamCity

    RamCity Peon

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    #61

    Nothing to be happy on this. I too got many.
    SEMrush
     
    RamCity, Jan 8, 2012 IP
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  2. Karuna17

    Karuna17 Member

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    #62
    some webmasters just don't take care about DMOZ kinda thinking that if you submit them your site, they'd be pi ssed off of you increasing their tasklist and get picky at you. Their strategy is to wait (sometimes endlessly) for the reviewers to find your site themselves.
     
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  3. Foxxy

    Foxxy Active Member

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    #63
    Is the process of becoming an editor as neglected as the site submission process? If the problem is that editors are non-active then it would seem that becoming an editor yourself and playing a role would be a better approach.
     
    Foxxy, May 22, 2014 IP
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #64
    Why would we get pissed off at submissions? We do editing because we like catalouging (sic) sites, reading, listing and learning about certain subjects.

    What we get pissed off at is people sugessting crappy, affiliate and mirror sites, multiple times. We ask them not to do so but they still do....to the tune of thousands per day.

    Wouldnt that piss you off too?

    So many times the Editors simply ignore the pool and search for sites themselves. It takes longer but saves sorting through crap.

    Suits us fine, you can even list your site if it is compliant and you treat all sites fairly. But most people prefer to come to foums and complain how bad our service is.....when they should realise we DO NOT offer a listing service, any guarantee of inclusion and as we quote, one day to many years before it will probably be reviewed.
     
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  5. Karuna17

    Karuna17 Member

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    #65
    People always like having beer for free:) And when they've got used to free beer, they seriously don't understand why does it disappear one day and start complaining:)
     
    Karuna17, May 23, 2014 IP
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    #66
    DMOZ has enormous numbers of submissions still waiting for review. In large parts those consist of spam and incorrectly submitted sites.

    So the average processing time for a site submission has grown longer with each passing year.

    However the time taken cannot be predicted, since the variation is so great: a submission might be processed within hours or take several years.

    However, site suggestions are just one of many sources of new listings. Editors are under no obligation to check them for new listings.
     
    Guide, May 25, 2014 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #67
    LOL. Very good joke, thank you. Next, you will say, why would we support corruption? We do editing because we like to take bribes and list gambling, porn, pharmacy sites and make money out of it. :rolleyes:
     
    gworld, May 28, 2014 IP
  8. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #68
    A rather interesting 1st person observation there Julian.
     
    Mia, May 28, 2014 IP
  9. Foxxy

    Foxxy Active Member

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    #69
    Well, I did at least try to apply so that I could contribute to a solution rather than complain about the problem. I guess my application wasn't for a category that was specific enough. I tried:

    Sports > American Football > College and University > NCAA Div I FBS > SEC

    I thought I had refined my category enough, especially since the whole category is only 110 listings. Most teams in the SEC have fewer than 10 sites listed. I could think of more than that off the top of my head for any of those teams.

    I guess they felt that a new editor wouldn't be knowledgeable about the entire conference, only about a team, because they declined me and suggested that I start with a smaller category. Smaller category? Smaller than 110 listings?

    My initial thought was that this is precisely why dmoz is a ghost town. I am someone who has a lot of knowledge on the category (which appears to be neglected), I'm willing to volunteer my time to help, and instead of being happy to have someone help clean up the mess, they want to tell me to go somewhere else and reapply from scratch. Crazy.
     
    Foxxy, May 28, 2014 IP
  10. Dasangam Rahul

    Dasangam Rahul Greenhorn

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    #70
    Ya.Even i submitted my blog long back,Till now i didn't hear anything from them. Feeling bad
     
    Dasangam Rahul, May 29, 2014 IP
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #71
    110 listings in one cat is too big for a new Editor. We always recommend choosing a cat with between 15-75 sites. In your case i would guess that you applied for the conference meaning there would be team subcats etc . You would not have learnt anything about subcats, relationships and linking so how could they allow you to start editing at the conference level when you wouldnt have learnt basic skills yet?

    They obviously thought you would be able to learn how to edit because they asked you to choose a smaller cat and apply again. Apparently the 10 minutes it would take to apply again was too much for your ego........:(
     
    snooks, May 29, 2014 IP
  12. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #72
    At least the culture at DMOZ is no longer condescending in nature. :rolleyes:
     
    Mia, May 29, 2014 IP
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    #73
    It had absolutely nothing to do with my ego and everything to do with poor user experience. Despite that, I still went back and reapplied to a single team category and was accepted. It took no time at all to go through the unreviewed sites, dating back to 2009 (one of which was no longer in existence). So far I've increased the number of listings by 50%, which sounds better than saying that I bumped it up from 9 to 13.
     
    Foxxy, May 31, 2014 IP
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #74
    DMOZ lingo translation:

    Subcats: where we let people play editor to increase the number of editors in stats, but we don´t lose any money because nobody cares about those categories.

    Relationships: Learn to kiss higher ranking editors a*s and keep your mouth shut about corruption and support the corruption, no matter what.

    Linking: How to link with with other editors so you can hide the corruption by listing for each other and link to big players on selling links without tramping on each other market.

    Learn these principals and you are ready for the big time in DMOZ. ;):)
     
    gworld, Jun 1, 2014 IP
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    snooks Well-Known Member

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    #75
    Well done Foxy :)
     
    snooks, Jun 1, 2014 IP
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #76
    Today we are celebrating the 10th anniversary of DMOZ's death. This is now a memorial thread.
     
    helleborine, Aug 10, 2014 IP
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    #77
    Has it been that long? It feels just like yesterday when editors were selling links and making some money out of it. It would be nice if somebody tells this to snooks, he has his head so deep buried in one of the editors back, that I don´t think he has heard the news.:)
     
    gworld, Aug 11, 2014 IP
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    helleborine Well-Known Member

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    #78
    Vultures will feed on carrion.
     
    helleborine, Aug 19, 2014 IP
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    #79
    That thing has been dead forever lol. Google hasn't put any value to directories for a very long time now. A few versions ago at least.
     
    ksb2050, Aug 19, 2014 IP
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    Jameyson MacDonald Well-Known Member

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    #80
    DMOZ is 100% run by volunteers and the number of volunteers they have is drastically insufficient to review the vast amount of websites being submitted each day. Unfortunately it is still used to gauge website value and authority by some. It can take years for your website to finally be reviewed and either added or rejected for inclusion. I personally wouldn't worry about it though...
     
    Jameyson MacDonald, Aug 19, 2014 IP
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