I just got rejected as an editor by DMOZ last week, it really hurts. My site was submitted separately about 3 weeks ago and as far as I know isn't in the directory yet. Just have to wait and see. I've noticed that when checking out other sites that are already in the DMOZ directory, they seem to be all really high quality sites. I will have to work towards being able to impress the DMOZ crew enough to include my sites.
All you can do with dmoz is try and find the correct category, submit your site, then forget it. If you get in you in, if not then don't worry about it. dmoz is just another directory, ok one with a bit of weight but just another directory. You can overcome sites with odp listings, just get more links than them
And some of us wouldn't have a clue. funnily enough I can make enough from an "honest days work" I don't need to exploit every activity I participate in. Sarah BTW there are some cool avatars being used by the members in this thread.
Nah, just keep trying to be accepted as an editor, then you will be able to include ALL your sites, and even earn a nice chunk of $$$ selling DMOZ listings like many editors out there.
Maybe I've buried my head in the sand but I don't think that happens to any extent. I'd be interested to see some actual allegations.
Just do a search in these threads, I think it was about 1000 editors before you that asked the same question and disappeared after seeing the proofs.
I've seen plenty of threads making the same old allegations, only one has shown "a mechanism" and none have named names - of either editors or sites. Care to help me out?
You can start with: editor: phonemistress some sites with high number of links listed by minstrel and will couple of days ago: 2,780 RECIPESOURCE.COM 1,304 ROTTENTOMATOES.COM 1,026 MAPQUEST.COM 912 CINEFILE.BIZ 572 THERECIPEBOX.COM 485 THECELEBRITYCAFE.COM 458 COMPUTERCROWSNEST.COM 432 ALLRECIPES.COM ... 125 SEXYCYBERWEBSITES.COM 114 TNASUPERMARKET.COM 112 CELEBRITYDESKTOP.COM 105 HOTYOUNGSTARS.COM 102 THESHOPPE.COM 102 SCHOLASTIC.COM 100 THEXXXARCHIVE.COM 97 PORNSTARXPRESS.COM ... 52 HOTSEXSITES.ORG 52 MUSICFOLIO.COM 52 PORNCITY.NET ... 20 SEXYFEMALECELEBS.COM 20 TEENS-PICS-FREE-PORN-PUSSY-FREE-PORN.COM 20 TEENIECOEDS.COM 20 YOURCHILDLEARNS.COM What are you going to do about it, file the famous "abuse report"? I am sure the corrupt editors will be shaking in their boots, if you file an "abuse report".
I'll make my own opinions and who knows, I may even resign. I don't want to be part of a corrupt organisation - especially as a volunteer! However until know all I've heard has been allegations and hot air. Interesting to see some real stuff... perhaps
Ok, I get it in the case of recipesource.com I can search on http://search.dmoz.org/cgi-bin/search?search=recipesource.com and see that they have a massive 2782 listings. I looked at a few and they were edited years apart and by different editors so while it looks like madness I would still question corruption. The list is obtained from http://www.whois.sc/internet-statistics/dmoz-listings.html and if you look at the top it's all sites like Tripod and CNN who you would expect to have multiple listings. Sarah
Applied for editor the other day, got turned down for "self promotion." I'm sorry I honestly mentioned the fact that I am affiliated with most sites in the category. :shrug:
I would just like to throw my 2 cents in please. There are a few sites that I know have applied for inclusion to dmoz and been rejected. Two of these sites were submitted by an ex editall whom I would believe knows the guidelines. www.las-vegas-homefinder.com www.wayneandfriends.com and this site which isnt even mine www.vegas4sale.net All these sites were turn down and from what I can see other than some editor trying to keep his or hers competition out, should have been included. I dont much care if they do or not now, but I believe there is corruption within DMOZ. I personally have recommended other real estate sites to them that ARE NOT MINE and they have not been included. Sarah I wish you the best of luck there and it sounds as if you may be one of the honest editors there, but power corrupts and I feel as if a lot of the editors there are on a power trip to line their pockets and protect their industries.
I don't think I'm dealing with corruption in my case, just grumpy people in a beurocratic process (I know all about this as an American who's been living in England for about a year). In my application I carefully listed 5 or 6 sites that have mispelled or inproper grammer in the category. I also told them about one site that has been completely down for over a year listed in the category. The site says "site not found". I honestly felt I could improve my category and tried to follow the guidelines and do a good application. Since the category is so small (like 7 entries) I went up one category which has 15 entries total and suggested urls into both the sub category and the higher one - I guess that was a problem. Oh well, they'll just have to continue having outdated and bad information. I had about 20 sites I was willing to add, mostly personal and informational sites. But my rejection email said "inappropriate sites." Excuse me for submtting the homepage of the world's best euphonium player into "Euphonium Artists." It should be there!
lol, sounds familiar. I once informed them that a domain jacker caught a name of mine which I let expire (I've lost interest in the site). Instead of my old site it displayed affiliate search links only. I went into resource zone to tell them and was accused of still being the owner of the site. That was hilarious because why would I even tell them? Anyways, it took 6 months for the spam site to finally be delisted. Common sense does not apply. It's like government employees. But then again, if it wasn't for Google using DMOZ, we wouldn't be talking about this. It's a dead horse we keep on beating. The best thing is to always focus on the big picture which are the major search engines whose results get impacted by DMOZ but only to a certain extent.
sarahk can of course read editor notes and is smart enough to see the difference between surmise and actuality .
And your point would be People here post comments, does that make them RIGHT? Oh then yet again I forgot none of us are meta editors, so we must ALL be WRONG The power that DMOZ holds is only because the masses give it that power. I for one am over DMOZ and realize its JUST ANOTHER DIRECTORY..with no special benefits. To coin your words Jimnoble: we all surmise that DMOZ holds a lot of weight as to our rankings, when in ACTUALITY its JUST ANOTHER DIRECTORY that is corrupt and being used as a tool to fill the pockets of a lot of money hungry editors who need to feel as though their opinions and financial greed matter to all of us. I am not the person to do this cause I do not have the technical knowledge to do so but slowly DMOZ is being exposed for what it has become and IMHO someone at some point will expose the corrupt practices and at that point we will all be able to HEAR those famous last words. I was a volunteer, I didnt know anything about that I would also like to say that I dont believe every editor is corrupt, but most of the editors that are in what I would call the money listings are. People like Sarah are genuine, honest and seem to be very ethical and there are a few others on this forum that IMHO are as well, but the masses of editors that I have spoke with are Best of Luck to you Jimnoble, I await to hear your famous last words when DMOZ is exposed.
My point was exactly what I said - nothing more . I shan't comment upon the rest of your message because I've responded to similar allegations many times in the past and I'm no longer willing to waste my time on them.
I can appreciate that Jim, but if you have had to respond to those many times before, doesnt that indicate that there must be some factual truth to those and it would require further investigation? If a single person says you robbed a store, that is an allegation. When a hundred people say you robbed a store that in all likelyhood is fact. Ignoring the problem will never make it go away. As the old saying goes; The Truth Will Set You Free