You bid for a link, (or pay for review fee) and upon approval, your link gets listed. It has a gambling-like factor in the system, but then you don't really lose for link inclusion once it's approved. That part is not like gambling.
Bidding for a spot on one of those category pages or those cheesy letter pages is not risky. This is because the submitter's mindset is only wanting a link for that purpose---to be listed in one of the category pages / cheesy letter pages. It has nothing to do with the amount of money.
To wrap things up: Bidding for a front page spot is considered a form of gambling due to the fact that you have a chance to lose the spot you paid for. All responses on to why this is not a form of gambling has been shut down (those who tried replying with arguments failed to prove anything nor had anything else to say).
Thanks for your views and opinions. As they are just that, don't be upset if I don't hold them in such high regard.
I made at least 25 bids today on directories and i didnt get the same rush i get at deuces and jokers wild.I must be doing something wrong
So according to that theory paying for a spot in a regular web directory is gambling, I will want to be on the first page in a category, but if the sites are sorted by pagerank and a site with a higher pr submits to the same category I will lose the spot I paid for, if more higher pr sites get listed I may be removed from the first page. And so is adwords etc. etc. So what's the point?
Your response makes the most sense yet. A "gambling-like" factor when you bid for a front page spot and lose it. I have showed examples already. I can find many more. As stated before, example of losers: http://www.bigweblinks.com/Web-Directories/ View that page and anywhere from #8 spot down are losers. Why? They paid $1,000+ in hopes to be on the front page. What happend? They didn't want to continue to gamble and keep taking a chance of being outbidded. I can find lots of other examples. How much traffic do they lose? How much traffic would they have gotten if they were to remain in the front page vs. being knocked to the category page where some won't even scroll down to look at the #8 spot Your welcome. I'm not trying to state any views or opinions, but a fact. And the fact I stated, no one has yet to prove me otherwise? Want to try? Who says everyone is the same? Who says in gambling you need a rush? Ever heard of people gambling for fun? Adwords allows you to have a budget on a certain campagin you start. You get what you paid for no matter what happens. You lose nothing in adwords since your paying for a service that is ultimately returned. Are you hearing yourself? Your saying your normal directory is the same as the bidding concept? In a normal directory, you pay a flat fee, same as everyone else. You pay a flat fee in return to be reviewed and listed. Position does not apply to this flat fee you pay for, so you are not losing anything as long as you remain listed.
why dont u ask if eBay is a form of gambling? EXACTLY SAME THING!!! sept wen u lose u dont get ur money bak
When I state this fact: Bidding for a front page spot is considered a form of gambling due to the fact that you have a chance to lose the spot you paid for. It can be viewed as an opinion and a fact. Why not both? Has anyone yet to prove otherwise? eBay is a auction style where bidding takes place. If you don't win the auction, you lose nothing. Good try though.
Buddy some of those who replied have many years in he gambling industry, they put forward that it was not gambling, ( as their opinion ) and it seems you have your view, further more those same people cant be bothered in a never ending circle of your right i'm wrong type discussion so rather than continue to push a dead horse some things are best let go and for you to continue in the vain that you are correct.
Remember you only pay for the review anyway! i have already refunded more than i have earned on my bidding directory! When you bid, say $5 to reach the home page, and someone out bid you by $6, your $5 dosenot goes waste, rather you will have to add another $1 to maintain the top spot! You get the top spot by bidding, and you have to pay more to maintain it, it's not only about traffic, it's about prestige of your site, it's like being No 1! site on that directory! On a regular directory, you pay for a regular link, for example $5! usually the regular directories are sorted by PR, so you directory has, say a PR of 5! and that perticular time you are on the top of that page, then someone comes and submit a PR6 page and your site is dropped from the 1st spot on the regular links, and slowly it goes to the 2nd page or so! and you lose the traffic in the category pages! so this could also be an example of gambling!!! The only difference of a regular directory to a bidding directory is, bidding directories are sorted by ammount, and regular directories is sorted by PR! And this is the reason why i say, that bidding directories and regular directories are the same! Let me explain this for you: say the top link on that bidding directory is $10, so if you bid $11 then whatever happens your bid will be the highest!! no chance to lose!! then it's all about maintaning that position, which is not only about traffic, this also brings your directories reputation in stake!! this is all about competition, the power of money, This is about being the NO 1 site, on that perticular directory!! Making my sentences in BOLD dosenot proves any point!! bidding directories is just like any other directory, here you have better control over the position of your links, that's it!! If you bid, and your link is deleted, with a message :: OOPS You lost! no link added! then i can agree, that bidding directories are gambling!! LOL
Adwords you bid your click amount someone else may be bidding more and you loose your spot, same as a bidding directory. If it was a form of gambling then since processing such money online is illegal in America adwords wouldn't be available to Americans would it? Since it is available you can assume nobody thinks its gambling.
Adwords placements are always changing. Even if you bid a lowest, you still have a chance to appear. Bidding with adwords is only done because of a over saturation with a keyword being competed for. Adwords your given a budget. That budget you decide to put into a campaign is ultimately met and you end up losing nothing (no risk factor). As you can see Downunder, I believe I'm trying to prove a simple point that people don't want to admit. They give reasons like "eBay and adwords" is gambling though. I'm sure their lawyers would have protected them from that.
Yes I'm hearing myself but you are not hearing me because you are too opinionated. Position does apply, and if you take the trouble to read my previous post and understand it you'll know why.
Thank you for confirming that you are too busy defending your opinion to actually try to read and understand mine and others genuine replies to your question.
Way to make sense. I think its the other way around. I replied to most peoples opinions and views already, and even replied to your statement already. I had to repeat myself at least 3-4 times to certain posts. Are you saying bidding in Adwords is a form of gambling also? Btw, nice bidding directory you have. I'f I'm right its one that uses a CMS system with a very common template.
Well Steve, i am not sure what anyone is trying to prove or dis prove any more as my head hurts, but i do know i am not in a position to tell other what to do with their directories or continually beat the it's gambling drum. My stance is clear on these directories and i do not see them as gambling, i also have a view that in its current form the bid directory ( MK1 ) is not an effective method for a directory and is poorly thought out, but once again i will refuse to beat that drum, a directory owner will make choices that best suit thier directories and neither you or i should have the right to say otherwise. What i will also say is i will have my directory run on the MK2 version of the bid directory, so if that is also going to put me in the wars with you, i will ready myself with my tin hat to avoid the flack coming my way.