Is America heading for civil war?

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    LA: This picture speaks for itself :(
     

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    Arnie Well-Known Member

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    Could you explain more about this? - or is it a photoshop job?
    I do believe that there will be no civil war in the States, since the average level of education is reasonable, but I do admit that there will be and already is a clash of interests.
     
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    was that today about the immigration issues? We've had quite a few crowds in San Diego as well.
     
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    The following picture was taken in downtown LA on Sunday of the mass protest.
    500,000 saying being illegal is ok.


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    I think that there are a lot of white business owners who will fight for illegal aliens being able to hop the borders as well.
     
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    I hate to say this, but I feel that a good majority of those people were just out there because:

    1. They were Mexican and this issue is directed at Mexico. The details don't matter.
    2. It was the cool thing to do.

    Certainly the kids fit #2. I don't know how one draws a line between a protest and civil war thought.

    This Bill is nothing more than politicking in an election year. The politicians need to show that they are "serious" about the southern border. This move allows them to do that and to accomplish nothing at the same time.
     
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    Yes, here in SD there was a ton of kids who just loved to scream out something about it. Not sure what they have been told about the issue if anything. But here in Cali, we're such a melting pot, every white person has Hispanic friends. The issue of race vs. nationality and immigration status gets clouded.
     
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    When I see that picture I cant help but think we are going to need alot more boarder patrol agents!
     
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    I look at Border Patrol agents as more or less actors.
     
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    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    Yes I'm sure none of them are affected by this at all, they're just out there screwing around...

    Or maybe... it's because their parents, brothers, sisters and uncles are here illegally, working their asses off everyday to support their families. Allowing themselves to be walked all over and treated like trash just because they are from Mexico. Maybe it's because their children, wives or other family are STILL in Mexico trying to get accross.

    I have several good friends who have parents that came here from Mexico (legal or not I don't know)... and until you know someone personally, and understand THEIR situations, you're opinion is a little one-sided.
     
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    "just because they are from Mexico"

    except there are millions in this country who immigrated here LEGALLY from mexico.

    How do they feel about this?
     
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    Here is what bothers me about immigration: why does it seem that the entire nation of Mexico depends on us so much. Isn't the solution rather to improve standards of living in Mexico, compared to coming to the U.S.?
     
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    ^DING DING^ we have a winner!

    Your absolutely right Blogmaster.
     
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    In ten years there will be 31,000,000 IM's in this country and most will be illegal.

    That would make them a very powerful nation in itself and Civil War would be the only way to enforce a law then.




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    Not really when you have a population of 300M right now, which will probably increase 5-8% or something in the next 10 years.

    It really depends about where they are located, as with the black riots in the 50/60s, they took place in black majority areas and it a decent riot can be done with 100k people, 31M isn't needed.

    But I'm no big fan of unskilled immigration legal or illegal.
     
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    #17
    Yeah right -> usgovinfo.about.com/cs/censusstatistic/a/aabirthrate.htm

    U.S. Birth Rate Hits All-Time Low
    Continuing a 12-year decline, the U.S. birth rate has dropped to the lowest level since national data have been available, according to statistics just released by the Centers for Disease Control (CDC). The rate of births among teenagers also fell to a new record low, continuing a decline that began in 1991.

    The birth rate fell to 13.9 per 1,000 persons in 2002, down from 14.1 per 1,000 in 2001 and down a full 17 percent from the recent peak in 1990 (16.7 per 1,000), according to a new CDC report, "Births: Preliminary Data for 2002." CDC analysts say the birth rate is dropping as the increasing life span of Americans results in a smaller proportion of women of child childbearing age.

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    Soon only 1 man/woman left in US(And that man will either be a latino or a moslem)
     
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    Good, best news I have seen all week.
     
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    Yeah, the US is headed towards a "staged" civil war. Illegals are breaking the law. period. If I tried to live in a country I'm not a citizen of, I deserve to be shipped home.

    They are decreasing our wages. If they want to start riots, go right ahead. The US government has about 50 1 million man internment camps all over the country, and they will put them all in it.

    This whole thing is staged to get Americans fighting against illegals, so the government can declare martial law. Why can't people see that? This entire thing is staged.

    Illegal immigrants are going to shoot themselves in the foot.

    http://www.prisonplanet.com/articles/march2006/300306raceriots.htm

    Please tell me you don't support the illegals. People who support them say this all the time. Here is my question. Why can't the government of Mexico improve their standard of living so they won't be tempted to run up here?

    Maybe Mexico could start by getting a middle class..........that would help. Everyone knows how bad it is down there. You have to pay a cop if you get caught jaywalking............a complete joke. In Mexico you're either poor or rich. No middle class like we have here, and that is about to go away to.
     
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    I hate that some are making this a racist thing and trying to divide the races by saying that. I am all for cracking down on ILLEGAL immigration. All need papers to come in and we should know who is coming in and why. As far as Mexicans working here - that is great, I have known quite a few illegals that work there butt off to help themselves and the family they left in Mexico, I just think we need to make it easier for them to get work visas that make sense and give them reason to follow the rules that apply to the visas.

    It's the idiots out there saying that if you are against ILLEGAL immigration you are a hater of a race or such, which is just bologna!
     
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