Is America dumb enough to allow an attack on Iran?

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by ncz_nate, Jul 22, 2008.

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Keep pressuring Iran?

  1. Yes, if need be - attack. Security > Freedom

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  2. No, we can't afford that. Freedom > Security

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  1. C. Berntsen

    C. Berntsen Active Member

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    #21
    I fully agree with homebizseo. I'd like to see someone be pulled of their teethes for voicing an opinion, stoned for voting, the list goes on, that's what the reality of Saddam's regime was, don't you dare tell me it was better before the Americans came, it never was. The only difference is media, which wasn't allowed in Iraq at the time Saddam was stoning the country. I'm not pointing out that living in Iraq has become Bahamas after the forces came, but it is certainly a lot better.
     
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  2. pondlife

    pondlife Peon

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    #22
    'Don't try and reason with children' or aren't intelligent enough to put forward a counter argument? ;)
     
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    #23
    Ok have you ever been in Iraq?!!

    have you seen the iraqi citizens shake hands with US soldiers?!!
    :rolleyes:



    imagine now if Iraqi army occupied your country, would you shake hand with them if you seen them in streets of your city? :rolleyes:


    Some 1 million of iraqi civilians died due to 10 years of US sanction.
    The same amount died due to 7 years of occupation and war!

    Now you wait them to love your soldiers.

    I will let you to judge it by yourself !
     
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  4. gauharjk

    gauharjk Notable Member

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  5. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #25
    How many regimes exist in Africa that are as bad or worse than Saddam's? Why didn't we go into all of them?
     
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    #26
    America will attack Iran but not prior to 2009.

    Early/Mid 2009
     
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  7. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #27
    The September 11, 2001 attacks financed in part by Iraq.
     
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  8. ncz_nate

    ncz_nate Well-Known Member

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    #28
    lol no it wasn't, you completely made that up. At least you're creative.
     
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  9. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #29
    Mohamed Atta and Iraqi intelligence officer Ahmad Khalil Ibrahim Samir al-Ani in Prague. One of three large wire transfers took place shortly after that meeting.
     
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    browntwn Illustrious Member

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    #30
    Did I call that one or what?
     
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  11. PHPGator

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    #31
    The situation is pretty clear to me. People are getting more and more concerned with the economy situation we are having. While the Iraq war is tied into that, I think politicians typically will focus on whatever the citizens want their focus to be. For the upcoming election, that is probably going to be the economy. I doubt many would go for an additional war, but rather, focus on a good exit strategy for Iraq so we can start reducing our expenses.
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #32
    http://www.slate.com/id/2070410/
     
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  13. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #33
    An outdated story.

    I thought you would at least pull out some of the Czech official statements that states the meeting occurred.
     
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    #34
    whats the point of iranian oil if they cant sell it anyways
     
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    GRIM Prominent Member

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    #35
    It was but one article, widely been shown not to of happened in multiple articles. Even 'if' it did happen it is so far from proving financing of 9/11 it's simply preposterous to keep claiming over and over Saddam financed 9/11.

    Czech officials claiming something happened is far from it actually happening, how about the yellow cake? Simply because one intelligent agency or person at an agency claims something it does not equate to a fact, I would hope people understand that after the Iraq debacle, guess I was wrong.
     
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    shahab6 Well-Known Member

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    #36
    I don't mean militarily, but at this moment this is irivelent. As all the insurgents have to do is do small attacks here and there, annoy US, do is long enough and US will eventually see there is no point in being in Iraq
    and it will leave.

    US is slowly losing the support of the people, any more pressure it has to leave. Second the war is costing US so much money that it's affecting the US economic. There is already a lot of budget cuts in a lot of government agencies, the job I worked they had to cut down 30% because of lack of funds. Their strategy is poor in Iraq,. I took a war class last semester and it taught me a lot about wars, and eventually pressure from home will cause the US to leave. Even in Afghanistan Taliban have increased their attack. They will increase their resistant, as Afghanistan has a long history of resistance.

    US does not have the support of the Iraqis people, it has been five years and Iraq is worst than ever.
     
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  17. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #37
    I think our work in Iraq is done. I thought we should have left Iraq either when Saddame was captured or was executed. WE will move our focus to Afghanistan and other terrorist harboring nations.
     
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    #38
    To answer the OP question, yes America is dumb enough.

    Terrorist hunting is very expensive.

    Not only do tax payers have to foot the bill, but we also get overcharged on everything to boot.

    Secondly, fighting against an idea of "terrorism" is absolutely impossible --- it's an idea, you can't fight against an idea. It's easy to fight against a Communist, if its a communist government well then its a communist. However, how does one define a terrorist? All military action could be considered terrorism - it's scary and people die. America could once easily be considered terrorist. Israel has roots in terrorism.

    What's the difference between a freedom fighter and a terrorist? All depends on what side you're on, that's why it's impossible to "win" this war.

    Thirdly, we suck at terrorist hunting. Osama Bin Laden anyone?
     
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  19. homebizseo

    homebizseo Peon

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    #39

    Bin Laden Is like a ghost or Bigfoot. You hear rumors of him and occasional a sighting but no Bin Laden. Bin Laden is on dialysis and needs Medical care so I doubt he is still in the Mountains if he is still alive.
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  20. gauharjk

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    #40
    All your points are very correct. War on Terror is a smoke-screen for something big, like The Project for New American Century.

     
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