Can anyone give some kind of estimated ratio between the search volume traffic Google has in comparison with search.msn.com Based on my humble experience I think its at least 3:1 in favor of Google. Why the heck is G so much stronger than the rest? I mean think about it, its full of spam, the accuracy of its results are not so much better than the ones of Yahoo and msn. And still this frenzy continues.....I am really fascinated on to when this Google era will end.... its kinda getting on my nerves. Ohh and their adsense sucks ass. Not because its not working just perfectly for me, but because of their support. Whenever I had problems with adsense or adwords I have always had the feeleing as if "Im on my own". Cheers.
Another Google hater it appears. I'd say anything above the 3:1 ratio is about right. Google is the daddy, it will be for the forseeable future too, so you best get used to it. It grew to worldwide dominance because it offers (or offered, at least) the best search results around, but if you want to find spam, you'll find spam. Dont like Adsense? Dont use it, i'll be happy to take your advertising dollars. Whenever I have had problems with Adsense, I have received a reply within 2-3 days. I wont bother putting anything else in, people usually dont change their mind anyway.
1. Google 56.4% 2. Yahoo 21.1 3. MSN Search 9.2% 4. AOL Search 3.8% 5. Terra Lycos 2.0 6. Altavista 1.7% 7. Askjeeves 1.7%
If high ranking site in google = 1500 hits per day ... high ranking site in MSN.co.uk = about 100 a day www.ask.co.uk about 10 a day These are very approximate but based on the past 2 years from my logs. Hope that helps.
Im not a Google Hater. Its not good to show such prejudism to someone who you don't know. Don't get me wrong, I admire google simply because of the masses of traffic it produces and the fact that understanding how Google works, or at least trying to understand gives me paychecks. My question was focused towards the segmentation of the search engines. And furthermore on to the question how long will it take before Google gets dethroned. Google is a kicking search engine no doubt about it, but its not normal for a market economy and especially a vast and diverse sector as the internet search to be totally dominated by a company which at the current stage does not differ with any exceptional competitive advantages over the rest. And regarding adsense. I will paste my dialogue with a folk from the support. You figure it out for yourself. Subject: Ads not showing Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 10:09:50 -0000 Hi, I have created this account before 1 week. Since then I have created 2 campaigns and nothing happens. The ads show to be active and everything running smooth, but the keywords which are also shown as active don't seem to trigger my ads. Please help. Thanks. Nikola Alexandrov Ater A day I receive....... Hello Nikola, Thank you for your email. We understand that you are unable to see your ad. There are a variety of reasons why this might happen and we have outlined some of the possible causes below. We also recommend that you use our Ads Diagnostic tool to determine exactly why your ad is not showing. You can access this tool by logging in to your account at https://adwords.google.co.uk and clicking the 'Tools' link within your 'Campaign Management' tab. In the future, you can quickly find troubleshooting information by visiting the 'My Ads Are Not Displayed' FAQ at https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=24&hl=en_GB. You will find answers to many other common questions by searching or browsing our Help Centre at https://adwords.google.com/support/?hl=en_GB. If you are unable to find an answer in our Help Centre, please feel free to contact us. When you use the Ads Diagnostic tool, you may find that one or more of the following issues apply to your ad: - Daily budget or ad delivery settings Your ad's visibility is controlled by both your daily budget and your ad delivery settings. With standard delivery, if your daily budget is low, our system will spread your ad impressions across the full day. With accelerated delivery, our system will provide all possible ad impressions as soon as they become available, which can cause your ads to run out of their budget early in the day. In either case, a lower budget means that your ad may not be receiving all possible impressions throughout the day and this could be the reason why you are not seeing your ad, especially if you are viewing pages later in the day. To learn how to view and edit your daily budget settings, visit: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6275&hl=en_GB. - Maximum CPC exceeds daily budget If you are running a keyword-targeted campaign, your ad will not be displayed if your maximum cost-per-click (CPC) for an Ad Group is higher than your campaign's daily budget. In this case, we recommend that you lower your maximum CPC or raise your daily budget, so that your daily budget is significantly more than your maximum CPC. For more information about adjusting your maximum CPC, visit: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=26133&hl=en_GB. - Flagged ads or keywords Ads and keywords can sometimes be flagged by our system because they require review and approval before they can run. AdWords Specialists will review all flagged ads and keywords. Please be assured that if your ad or keywords are flagged, they should be reviewed shortly. - Ad Rank Your ad may not appear on the first page if your Ad Rank is not high enough to place it in one of the top slots. The same ads are not displayed on every page, so if you do not see your ad on the first page, check subsequent pages to see if it appears. To help improve your ad's chances of showing on the first page of results, you can increase your CPC and/or refine your ad text and keywords to make your ad more relevant. You can learn how to do so at https://adwords.google.com/select/tips.html?hl=en_GB. - Location targeting Ads targeted to countries or territories can be seen on the corresponding Google domain (such as Google.fr for ads targeting France). You may also see your ads on Google.co.uk, depending on your IP address. If you target your campaigns regionally or use customised targeting, you will only see your ad if our system identifies you (using your computer's IP address) as being located within that region. If our system is unable to determine the searcher's location, we will show country-targeted and territory-targeted ads instead of ads with regional or customised targeting. For more information on how to see your regional or custom targeted ads, visit: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7118&hl=en_GB. You can learn how to view and edit your targeting settings at https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6277&hl=en_GB. - Language targeting You can only see your ad if your campaign is targeting the same language as your user interface. So, if your user interface preference is set for Japanese but your ad campaign is targeting French, you will not see your ad. You can learn how to view and edit your targeting settings here: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=6277&hl=en_GB. - Inactive or deleted ads and keywords Make sure that the ad you are looking for is active and that the keywords that you are using to search for it are active as well. If all ads within your Ad Group are deleted, this means that there are no ads running in that Ad Group. Also, your ad will not be displayed on Google or the search network for any inactive keywords. Your ad will not be displayed at all for deleted keywords. - Approval status If an ad does not meet our advertising guidelines and policies, we will prevent your ad from running. If this happens, you will be notified by email and you will see the word 'Disapproved' listed below that ad on your Ad Group Details page. The email will suggest changes that should be made to your ad so that it can run again. Once you have made the appropriate edits, simply save your changes to automatically resubmit your ad for review. To read our Editorial Guidelines, please visit: https://adwords.google.com/select/guidelines.html?hl=en_GB. Please be aware that new and edited ads must be reviewed and approved by AdWords Specialists before they run on the Google Network. Additionally, some ads may not run immediately on Google as they require review before being shown. - Site targeting If you are running a site-targeted campaign, your ad will appear only on the sites in the Google content network that you have chosen to target. Make sure that you are looking for your ad on one of your targeted sites. It is also possible that your ad is simply not displayed at the moment you view the page or that your maximum cost-per-thousand-impressions (maximum CPM) may be too low to win a position on that site. Check your account's 'Campaign Summary' page for details on how often your ad is displayed. If your ad is not displayed often enough to fulfil your daily budget, you might want to consider raising your max CPM for selected sites or Ad Groups. Or, you can try expanding your list of targeted sites to include more possible places for your ad to run. - Billing information Your ad will not start running until you submit valid billing information. To enter this information, click the 'My Account' tab in your account and then click the 'Billing Preferences' link. If you choose post-pay, your account will be active as soon as your payment details are validated. For pre-pay, your account will be active as soon as we receive and process your funds (usually around 8-10 business days). - Cache file You might not be able to see your ad if the page that you are trying to view is an outdated version stored in your Internet browser's cache. This means that your Internet browser is showing you a previously saved copy of that page to make it load faster instead of refreshing the page each time you view it. We recommend clearing your Internet browser cache and then reloading the page to look for your ad again. To learn how, visit: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=14776&hl=en_GB. - Formats of image ads The format of the image ad that you are running must match one of the formats accepted by each website. Make sure the site runs ads in the format that you are trying to use. For more information on image ad requirements, visit: https://adwords.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=7677&hl=en_GB. If you have additional questions, please visit AdWords Support at https://adwords.google.co.uk/support, where you will find answers to many frequently asked questions. We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available. Sincerely, The Google UK AdWords Team After having to postpone my project for 9 days simply because my campaigns don't work, and after losing 2 days to get the support to paste me links to the faq I write to them.... Original Message Follows: ------------------------ From: "Nikola Aleksandrov" Subject: Re: [#70335587] Ads not showing Date: Fri, 18 Aug 2006 17:08:35 +0300 Wow thanks for the help. "Go figure it out yourself" would have been much easier, instead of pasting a 3 pages premade text. As I have outlined....everything is absolutely normal with my campaign. Budget is $6000 per day, CPC is enough to get me ranked in 1-5 (according your traffic estimator). All keywords are active and showing in green color. Dont you think that I did not run all available tools to see why my ads are not delivered before losing my time to write to you? The ads diagnostic tool says that there is no such active keyword for my campaign. At the same time there is explicitly clear that they totally are. Or at least they are shown that way. I can't believe you call yourself support.............As soon as the YPN beta is over, I will be more than happy to change to them. Thank you very much and have a nice day! Nikola Alexandrov Hello Nikola, Thank you for your email. I am sorry to hear that you are experiencing frustration with your AdWords account at present. I understand from your email that you have been unable to see your ad. Please rest assured that AdWords Specialists have just reviewed your ad, so it should now be running. Your ad was not displayed for a short period of time because it was in review. For verification purposes I have attached a screenshot of your ad appearing on google.co.uk using the keywords "**************". Ads submitted to our programme are reviewed according to our advertising policies and guidelines, which can be found at https://adwords.google.co.uk/select/guidelines.html. Changes to your ad text, URL or keywords will also be reviewed. Please know that some ads will not run until after they have been reviewed. To avoid interruption in your ad delivery when you edit your ad, create a new ad in your Ad Group instead of editing your old ad. Your old ad will continue running while the new ad is reviewed. Then, once your new ad is running, you can simply delete your old ad. If you have additional questions, please visit AdWords Support at https://adwords.google.co.uk/support, where you will find answers to many frequently asked questions. We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available. Sincerely, Karl The Google UK AdWords Team Original Message Follows: ------------------------ From: "Nikola Aleksandrov" Subject: Re: [#70335587] Ads not showing Date: Mon, 21 Aug 2006 22:58:56 +0300 Well I just wanted to say that the ads which you made screenshots of are from my original adwords Account. The one which Im having problems, and the account from which this original support request was made is still not functioning. It's a new one which will be used specifically for this project. account which is not working : ***************@***.com account which was working all along and you made screenshots of : *******@****.bg As I started to think that there will be no solution for the first account I started the same campaign from my old account (yesterday). And thus you thought that everything was working. Made screenshots and sent them to me. Nikola Hello Nikola, Thank you for your email. I apologise for the confusion regarding the two different AdWords accounts. I have reviewed your account with the login email *********@****.com and have found that your "********" campaign was in review. Please be aware that some ads will not run until after they have been reviewed. I can confirm that AdWords Specialists have now reviewed your ad. In addition I noticed that the Ad Group for the "******" campaign is currently paused. If you have paused an Ad Group, you can resume it at any time. You will not accrue clicks or charges while your Ad Group is paused, and it will remain inactive until you resume it. To resume an Ad Group, please follow the steps below: 1. Log in to your AdWords account. 2. In the 'Campaign Summary' table click the ad campaign containing the Ad Groups you want to resume. 3. In the 'Ad Groups' table, select the checkbox(es) next to the appropriate Ad Group(s). 4. Click 'Resume' at the top of the 'Ad Groups' table. Shortcut: If you want to resume all of your paused Ad Groups quickly, click the checkbox next to the 'Ad Group Name' heading in the top row of the table. This will select all Ad Groups at once. Then, click 'Resume.' If you have additional questions, please visit AdWords Support at https://adwords.google.co.uk/support, where you will find answers to many frequently asked questions. We look forward to providing you with the most effective advertising available. Sincerely, Karl The Google UK AdWords Team Pay attention how each of the email I received started with something like "Thank you and Im sorry for...." Apologising for his incompetence. So the mistakes the support made: 1. Tried to dodge my support ticket by pasting me bullshi* which I already know and that I did go through before submitting the support ticket. 2. I have initiated an ad from my original account and they thought the problem was solved by itself, when they saw the same ad appearing. They even made screenshots and sent them to me. 3. For some reasons they went to my original account which had nothing to do with the whole problem and absolutely nothing connected with the support ticket (in the ticket it is explicitly shown which is the problematic account) 4. Took 9 days prior to the ticket request and 4 days to solve the ticket(s) just to get someone from their genious staff to go and review my ad. Now tell me, If you had a deal for a Project which required adwords to work smoothly, and it did not work at all for 13 days. And the support was like that, Am I wrong to say that I am totally dissatisfied? I call that ineffeciency. And ineffeciency gives competitive disadvantage. And in this regard, I asked the question - How long will it take for G to be dethroned? Your Grunt, Nik
Thanks. I agree with you. google kicks the ass out of the other engines when it comes to traffic. And its nothing like those percentage charts.
If you are not ranking well in google msn is a great source for traffic.. (assuming u are ranking well on msn) and it also depends on search terms, some search terms might actually get used on google less than on yahoo/msn due to the different audiences both sites get
I have been noticing alot lately that I am more impressed with googles way of indexing a site then Googles. It seems Google not only takes forever, but its page updates take quite some time as well. I seem to consistanty get pages and then they get dropped over and over again. Not to mention their back-link checker doesn't work either ITs all about yahoo from now on!
Is there somewhere online that has a geo breakdown of the search engine traffic? I'd be curious to see what percentage of Google traffic is from the US, etc.