Is $2000 a month expensive for keyword "lingerie"

Discussion in 'Keywords' started by bbmenswear, Apr 15, 2008.

  1. #1
    I'm building up backlinks at present for a 3 month old lingerie website

    I have alot of money to put into this but don't plan on wasting it

    I need some good advice as to which steps i should take.

    Either do it myself or pay an established company

    I want to be in the top 5 for the keyword lingerie on Yahoo to start with and then google once the website is older

    If you have experience please tell if this is going to possible and how hard i will have to work to do it within 6 months
     
    bbmenswear, Apr 15, 2008 IP
  2. charroseo

    charroseo Peon

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    #2
    1 word keyword ??
    It's good that you have a lot of money because ranking 1 word popular keyword will cost you some bucks :cool:
     
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  3. pipes

    pipes Prominent Member

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    Why rank just for keyword Lingerie?

    Most people, especially shoppers type in quite a few words, 2 minimum for most.
     
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    This keyword will never bring you the business traffic, that you are seeking.
     
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    In my opinion it will be much more expensive than $2000. Are you sure ranking for that 1 keyword will convert well enough to justify the money you're going to spend. I think that you should choose a more specific keywords and work on them. The traffic is going to be a bit random for just "lingerie".
     
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  6. w3bmaster

    w3bmaster Notable Member

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    I think the best strategy is to target 5-10 mote specific keyphrases

    And in time 1.1.5 years by gaining trust you get rank maybe olso for thath keyphrase

    I'm a 4 years seo freelancer

    Regards
     
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  7. zidane1986zidane1986

    zidane1986zidane1986 Banned

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    i will try to do that for you and i will work before recieving any $$

    but if your site apeared in first page in google i will take 1000$

    and after it is in the first 5 i will take the other 1000$

    pm me details please
     
    zidane1986zidane1986, Apr 15, 2008 IP
  8. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    Don't buy links. It could ruin your company if Google finds out and bans your domain. Instead spend the money on decent advertising so people start linking to your site. If your site offers quality content it will rank for its keywords with time :)
     
    Nora, Apr 15, 2008 IP
  9. bbmenswear

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    Sorry i didn't explain there are other keywords i wish to rank for such as "sexy lingerie" "exotic lingerie" "plus size lingerie" ect ect

    What i really am trying to figure out is if I should pay a company to do this or invest my own time in learning
     
    bbmenswear, Apr 15, 2008 IP
  10. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    #10
    Don't pay a company.. there is no company that can make you rank for keywords. Its the quality of your website that will rank you for those terms.

    If you want to rank for those terms include the keywords on your site (no keyword stuffing), add content that users will find interesting.
    I assume you're running a shop so you could be a bit creative and describe the lingerie that's offered in which you can include the keywords. :)
     
    Nora, Apr 16, 2008 IP
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    I dont think it worth the money, just my opinion.
     
    youchy0, Apr 16, 2008 IP
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    RankSurge Banned

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    #12

    Wow, Amazing statement, and prolly the reason why people think they can do it themselves. If no company can make you rank for keywords, how am I still in business? SEOMoz? BruceClay? Impaqt? HighRankings? SEOBook? StuntDbl? How many companies do you want me to list?

    First off any 1 word phrase will be competitive, and if you have to pay $2,000 per month for a phrase and you will profit from that phrase, do it.

    Just because you build a lemonade stand doesn't mean people will know you sell lemonade.
     
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  13. Nora

    Nora Well-Known Member

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    Google doesn't support it.. of course people make money from it and its good for the owners of the site for a while until it gets penalized. I don't think the topic starter should risk it

    Why would quality websites even need a company to bring them to the top? With time they'll start ranking for keywords the whitehat way :)
     
    Nora, Apr 16, 2008 IP
  14. ScottBannon

    ScottBannon Well-Known Member

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    Uhh, because all of the sites currently at the top are spending small fortunes to be--and stay--there already.

    Forget about.com and wikipedia then look at the rest sitting there. Heck, one has over 100,000 backlinks, and half of those are "sponsored links" with a major news media corporation. They aren't cheap.

    Do you know how to oust that kind of competition without hiring an SEO specialist to assist you? If so, please share... heck, sell me the information. Even reporting the paid links is useless, trust me big G already knows... but for some advertisers they don't care.

    For the original poster, I used to own a profitable lingerie site (between 4k and 10k monthly). Had it for over 6 years and never got into the top 20 for "lingerie" because I wasn't willing to wage a spending battle with pretty much the exact same sites that are still at the top today.

    My advice, find an SEO specialist with a long reputation and work with them on a campaign for longtail terms rather than trying to go after lingerie, or even sexy/exotic lingerie.

    Go after brand names you carry and add phrases buyers will use when searching like "free shipping" (i.e. "string thong free shipping"), then hammer those in bulk. They're easy to rank for, so get enough and you'll start seeing daily sales rise. Once you get a system for this up and running you can lose the SEO help and build on it from there yourself.

    Hope this helps.
     
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  15. ErectADirectory

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    Go PPC to sell stuff ... turn 2k/month into $3000 then wrap that up with your $2k for next month and invest $5k which turns into $7500 ............................ etc.

    at some point buying links won't be an issues and you will see immediate results. Those links should be anchor text of a different long tailed keyword that all include "lingerie". After some time the links will start to add up and you will get some natural rankings.

    You are talking about a saturated market in lingerie so it's not going to be easy or fast by any means. This will take you at least a year or so due to the competition that's already established. So take my original advice and go PPC 1st, you'll thanks me now and later.
     
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    #16
    To rank a single or high competitive keyword is quiet hard but you can do it by submitting your site to directory. Also submit article to different sites. Forum posting, blog comments and social bookmarkings can help also gaining backlinks.
     
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    ..... The blind leading the naked .....
     
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  18. Jaysonnhs

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    Yeah I don't think it would be that hard to do with $2.5K - $3.5K/month for 6 months - lingerie would be close but the other mentioned terms are obtainable. What's your domain name (any chance it's exoticlingerie?) and how old is your site (ah 3 months)? It would just require a lot of work which is why you may be able to squeak by with around 3k/month.

    It really doesn't look that difficult after a quick comp. analysis.

    You would really have to work hard along with a company to pull it off - they'd have to tell you what you could do to help. 6 months flies by but I've seen comparable things done.
     
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    My advice is to start out small and get bigger, not the other way around.
     
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    Long Tail Treasure. Remember that.

    People typing in "lingerie" may be interested in photos of celebrity girls wearing lingerie, or they may be just researching what exactly "lingerie" is. You don't want that kind of traffic. You need sales, so target keywords that BUYERS (ex. "buy lingerie") would type, not lurkers.
     
    JohnS0N, Apr 18, 2008 IP