is #1 really the best position?

Discussion in 'Search Engine Optimization' started by falcondriver, Aug 4, 2006.

  1. #1
    has anyone an experience how great the diffenence (number of visitors for the same keyword) is between se-position #1 and #2 or even #3 for the same keywod and site?
    i just ask because i often find myself just skipping the first result without even reading it, just because there is a sponsored result at this possition for most keywords, or another big site like ebay or just spam.

    if i look at this adsense heatmap, it seems like #2 and #3 are even much closer to the hot area, which means they are easier to spot.

    what do you think about it? and how would you rank for #2 without overtaking #1 :)
     
    falcondriver, Aug 4, 2006 IP
  2. Skinny

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    Googles ranking algorithms are very complicated but its pretty safe to say, for medium-high keyword phrases, the first position will always draw in more traffic. That heatmap is totally irrelevant, Google has a different search page layout but common sense should tell you that the first result is (usually) more relevant, so it will receive more clicks.
     
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    I'm sure it depends on the keywords too. If #1 isn't really related to what you are then I wouldn't worry as much. But if it's your main competition then overtake the guy, and see for yourself how much better it is :)

    I do skip over #1 sometimes and go to the result that looks the most appealing for what I'm looking for.
     
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    It really depends on who is number one for your keyword(s). Sometimes it is a spammy site which users will remember, or just skip when looking at results. Although, if number 1 is a good quality site then I can see it getting more hits than number 2 from google.
     
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    erm... are there proper studies to prove the accuracy of the heat map? might just be one's thoughts instead of a proper study backed by research...
     
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    why bother discussing which is better #1 or #2 when you can have both the positions! Afterall every site can have two pages for each keyword ;)
     
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    The heatmap is provided by Google to help webmasters know the best positioning for there ads (the locations that receive most clicks), thus it is quite irrelevant to this - you cant really compare it to a search listings page.
     
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    I wish I had the link, but I saw one study last year that the drop off from #1 to #2 was around 40%. So while it is less than the 60% quoted in the problogger study, it's consistent in the implications.
     
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    I was #3 for a specified keyword last month, since august 1st i`m #1 and my traffic for that keyword went down ( MSN )
     
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    For competive keywords i have a site which is No.1 for few keywords but I don't see any traffic months after month in MSN.
     
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    #10 sometimes is as good as #1, if you look at a users activity, you will notice that sometimes they ended up visiting site #10. I dont know if anyone has made any research on this, but that is my theory about it. Cheers. :D
     
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