Iraqi girl stoned for loving man of different religion...

maybe they just read the Bible? That book is full of reasons why you should stone people to death...
http://skepticsannotatedbible.com/cruelty/ot.html

 

If you ever read the bible you coudln't say like this. You're just parroting islamic propaganda, which got debunked on and on. You're making no point with your remarks and it really will hurt your credibility.

Your remark is more like blind hate. You can't fight it you hate it.

 

Why on earth would I be parroting islamic propoganda? Muslims are just as ridiculous as the christians.

And what do direct quotes from the bible have to do with being blind hate? Unless of course the words in the bible are hateful. Which admiteddly, they are more often then not. Xenophobic, biggoted, hateful, controlling, racist comments. And that is the book which people actually beleive they take their morals from...people actually believe the Bible is a moral compass...yet their morality is nothing at all like what the book says.

And then they get upset at your for pointing out what it actually says!

 

Evil is evil, it doesn't matter who you are.

Humans should be as free as possible to make their own choices.

These men limited this girls right to make choices.

Hopefully widespread publicity of this crime will help to prevent it's recurrence.

 

You do have a problem with judgement though.

Old testament shows us human nature, something like islam today.
But remember there were meek and humble people, like Abraham, Moses, Daniel and so many more who were made kings and not the sword wielding warriors. And none of them(prophets) were completely faultless.

The New Testament shows us the ideal character, which is the character of Jesus by words and deeds.

Now figure out.

In this time we have hundreds of million people(if not billions) who deserve to have a much better, happier life.
Human inteligence tries to destroy, fight, kill, cut evil which then creates even more evil.

Jesus's wisdom has shown us the real submission to God and that in due time he will not forsake any who believe in him. If those millions or billions would act the intelligent way, our world would be constantly in big wars, nothing to compare with that what's going on now or not yet.

How many people got comforted by the words and deeds of Jesus and then all of a sudden this people were like raised from dead into life and become important witnesses of Jesus again, even financially tremendously successful.

 

The old testament shows us what God is like.
God kills. God 'cleanses'. God condones slavery. God denies slavery (yes, he does both several times). God demands sacrifice.

This is your Bible.

They were all, afterall, as the story goes....created in God's image.

Ideal....
He lied about prayer: http://www.evilbible.com/Jesus_Lied.htm

Jesus says that he has come to destroy families by making family members hate each other. He has "come not to send peace, but a sword." Matthew 10:34-36

Jesus explains why he speaks in parables: to confuse people so they will go to hell. Mark 4:11-12

If you're ashamed of Jesus, he'll be ashamed of you. (And you'll go straight to hell.) Mark 8:38

Jesus says that we should fear God since he has the power to kill us and then torture us forever in hell. Luke 12:5

Jesus will take "vengeance on them that know not God" by burning them forever "in flaming fire." Thessalonians 1:7-9

I see religious zealots killing other religious zealots because they are religious zealots, yet not even seeing the irony of their own religious zealotry in the equation. Firm in the conviction that they know the truth, and their truth is beyond question, because it is true.

 

I like the way the Bible answer for me about you.
Is your style of hypocracy the way of peace? Aren't you blinded by yoour own decisions? How far can you go on your own?

Matthew 10:34-36

34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. a ministry, the tongue of people he wants to use

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. For his purpose to proof that he's right, in other words to all that who oppose Gods rule, by not taking away the free will though, quite logic. - Human nature you'd say, - we all know.

36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.

Mark 4:11-12

11 And he said unto them, Unto you it is given to know the mystery of the kingdom of God: but unto them that are without, all these things are done in parables: Here's where I see you. You're having a problem to look through

12 That seeing they may see, and not perceive; and hearing they may hear, and not understand; lest at any time they should be converted, and their sins should be forgiven them. Isn't this grace?

Mark 8:38

Whosoever therefore shall be ashamed of me and of my words in this adulterous and sinful generation; of him also shall the Son of man be ashamed, when he cometh in the glory of his Father with the holy angels.Should be logic, have you ever tried to oppose your authorities, boss? - try it, may help you to find out.

Luke 12:5

5 But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear him, which after he hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear him.Quite logic too, he will do what he said, people don't have to. Thank You Lord

2 Tessaloniens 1: 7-9

7 And to you who are troubled rest with us, when the Lord Jesus shall be revealed from heaven with his mighty angels,

8 In flaming fire taking vengeance on them that know not God, and that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ:

9 Who shall be punished with everlasting destruction from the presence of the Lord, and from the glory of his power;Grace again! they will be not tortured forever but will be put to everlasting death and remembered no more. Isn't that what atheists ask for. See? ask and it shall be given

To pray to move a mountain means, - a mountain presents problems, hindrance, troubles etc.

Here an example how it happens in families.

A young Saudi Muslim converted to Christianity and was afraid of his family so he moved to another country and wrote his father that he can't agree to be a Muslim and to visit mosques any longer and that he has converted. He was afraid of his father, and indeed in many of these cases, sharia law takes a grip, which means nothing else than apostasy and that is death penalty for it.

His father was upset and sad and they hadn't contacted each other for years. One day this young christian convert went back to Saudi to visit his family and was prepared to even die for his conversion. Here the surprise!!!
His father was soo happy to see his lost son again and he told him. "After you left I bought all books about Islam, Hadiths, Sunnahs any and all teaching books and found out that there are so many things that were never told to us Muslims in the mosques, - I found that this can't be the truth we follow and I converted to Christianity too" - Cheers

 

This is sick, they are all beasts. They should murder that whole religion, they are not worth to live...

Somebody watched the movie? It's horrible...they're kicking on her head many times...throwing stones BUT they need to cover her ass with some clothes while kicking her to death. Very strange.. It aren't people, they are nothing more than animals

 

This is all very complex. When I first read the original post I thought it was islam, because stoning people to death is kind of an islamic thing. The people that did this though was from the Yezidi religion. From what I found out islam and muslim community has been oppressing them for years and hatred has grown between the Yezidi religion and islamic followers. Before this thread I had never heard of the Yezidi. The Yezidi actually welcomed the US invasion because they had been treated so bad by the muslims. So, this Yezidi girl fell in love with a muslim, romeo and juliet...and this is a result of all that hatred.
It would be better if there was real law enforcement out there, not based on what religion you are but based on laws that apply to all. That is why I believe religion and government should be seperate. The article said law enforcement was there but did nothing, in a just society they would fire that law enforcement and possibly prosecute them. This should never been allowed to happen. If somehow they were unable to stop it on time, the police should be hunting down the 10 men that did this and prosecuting them. But it seems like in countries where religion is the law, somehow things get twisted and are corrupt.

 

It was pointed to the Yezidi

 

Hilter and Stalin killed millions in a quest to ultimately get rid of religion.

Only a pot smoking communist hippy would write such a stupid song. And only ignorant people believe what it says.

 

...you just quoted some of the same passages back at me and made out like they said something Good.

How can you read the same passages, describing killing, punishment for no reason and purposeful trickery, and interpret them as being good?

God damn religion causes mass delusion. It is so frustrating.

its like going into a mad house and trying to make them sane. They just twist your real world logic to prove their own insanity. Forget it.

Carry on blaming other religions! They are all at fault, and only "God" can save them. Good for him...

 

The site you are getting your info from is twisting words and has no understanding of the Bible. You can take a verse out of context with no problem and a whole chapter with some effort. But to put it in context shows the meaning.

You sound a bit angry and off, but it may be because english is a second language. Your sentences sound as if you are screaming mad so you are skipping words.

 

See you say that, and I know that a lot of the things that is said on that site are a bit extreme, a bit out of context, easily explainable even.... But that is what every christian says to me when I start asking the hard questions. They shrug off the entire thing, because some of them are out of context. yet that same person will easily take a phrase out of context to show how 'loving' their God is...

Fact is, there are plenty of phrases and plenty of examples that are 100% in context. 100% clear in their meaning. And yet they are ignored or twisted by 'interpretation'. Jesus says:

10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.
10:36 And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

And christians CHOOSE to interpret that as something which it is not. Jesus clearly says that he will set people against one another, and that if you don't love him more than your own family, you aren't worthy (and we know what that means! ETERNAL DAMNATION FOR YOU HEATHEN!)

C'mon. There is no need to go out of context here, the bible is full of horrible horrible stuff, done in the name of God, done BY God, and created to fulfill gods little game plan.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHPg...p?s=&act=ST&f=170&t=14877&st=140&#entry171756

 

This Whole "Politic and religion" section of DP should be closed, its always the same people participating, posting, creating those threads with only one purpose hating each other. and hating each others religions, Jews attacking muslims, muslims attacking jews, AT's attacking both..

damn do something usefull with your time people, and try to love each other. what the hell is wrong with you people.

thanks for spreading the hate.

 

It will never happen. Not forgetting these threads are moderated. People have been banned and received infractions for being out of line here. If people can discuss matters without going over the top then that's what these categories are for.

Col

 

Religion. Spreading the hate since 10,000BC.

 

There was never any context to begin with. Hell, any nut can find Old Testament scriptures from anti-Christian websites. That doesn't take any skill. Now, a worthy adversary would start quoting from the New Testament. A worthy adversary would match Old Testament scriptures to modern day events to say "see, those Christians are doing XXX from the Old Testament." But that doesn't happen.

Here's why it doesn't happen:

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=110161

If you could come up with a list like this, I'd be impressed.

 

And that doesn't invalidate the truth of it. I wasn't trying to show off, I was just trying to raise awareness of the hypocrisy.

now that would be hard, because it doesn't make good news to publish that sort of stuff. It isn't 'Nice' to ridicule your readers, and fact is, most of the readers of the news sources I have access to are from what is commonly accepted as a "Christian" society. So its a little biased.

Secondly, the christians are winning. So, being top dog, it is easy to look like you are good and benevolent. I mean, no one is oppressing you. No one is invading your country. No one has killed all of your family. So you don't feel compelled to get revenge. But if they were...you would.

If the tables were turned, and you had all of the christian denominations crammed into one section of the earth, and Islam dominating most of the other land masses on earth, i bet it would look much as it does now, just with the names the other way around.

Oh of course, their Koran says that women have to be covered up, their koran says people have to be stoned...their Koran says... ... But so does the Bible. Their religion is just as potentially offensive as the christian religion. The only difference is the circumstances. From your lofty height you judge the actions of these 'evil' people. Yet if you were in their position, then I have no doubt you would do the same thing, and you would justify it with equally retarded logic. Because fact is, when you are that emotional, logic isn't usually your strongest point, however an emotional attachement to "God" is, and since God doesn't actually exist, it is easy to do whatever you want, and convince yourself that God told you to do it...it is what God wants.

The only modern example I can think of to demonstrate this, is the Protestant and Catholic fighting in Northern Ireland: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Ireland

And we only need to look throughout history to seem many examples of christians killing indescriminantly. Not only in warfare (crusades) but also in quite towns (witch hunts).

So I suggest you try to see through the "Holier than thou" fog clouding your vision, and understand the situation and context of the situation.