Iraqi Death Toll Exceeds 600,000 Since Invasion, Report Says

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  1. TWalker

    TWalker Peon

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    #121
    Well at least you have something to look forward to.....
     
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  2. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #122
    That's because that there Fox News covered several points of view, including:

    You mean like these people?

    And I thank you for proving it true ;)
     
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  3. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #123
    Any idea where that oil is? Or are you demonstrating that facts do not matter?

    I've got $20 paypal to anyone who can show where Bush or Blair have taken any oil out of Iraq and into their respective countries.

    Any takers?
     
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  4. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #125
    I'll add $20 to it.
     
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  6. Crazy_Rob

    Crazy_Rob I seen't it!

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    #126
    You don't have to bring the oil to your country to make money off of it.

    When the petroleum laws in Iraq are finalized, the US and British companies (Exxon-Mobile, Chevron,BP Amoco and Shell) will be the big winners.

    And I will bet $20 on that! :D
     
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  7. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #127
    Who should benefit more? Countries that gave blood to free the country or those that sat on the sidelines and benefitted from Saddam's reign?
     
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  8. inspiration100

    inspiration100 Active Member

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    #128
    Couldn't have said it better myself. Trickery is all this is. :eek:
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #129
    You do realize that BP/Amoco and Chevron are pretty much controlled by Venezuelan interests right? Might want to look a bit closer at who is really involved. Hate to see you lose a weeks pay.:eek:
     
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  10. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #130
    Don't you mean:

    Who should benefit more? Countries that invade soveriegn nations, destroy governments and infrastructure, murder thousands of men, women and children, and take the oil they want; or those that were willing to be civil and pay for it? :confused:

    Decisions, decisions! :rolleyes:
     
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  11. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #131
    ^ what on earth is he talking about now?
     
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  12. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #132
    destroy governments. If you are actually in support of the previous government and its actions (which I assume you are, by you often posts). Then I guess you have a point. The destroyers of that fine fine regime should not be rewarded ;)

    destroy infrastructure. Up until the terrorism started, the infastructure was left pretty much in tact. The groups you support have destroyed more in Iraq then the invading infidels ever did. You realize this right? And I wonder why you support them ;)

    murder of civilians. Read your report on the 655,000 reported deaths. 70% plus are caused by the people you support. Which are obviously trumped up. Who is killing civilians? Those you support.

    Take the oil. I have not seen any oil taken, stolen, carried out by camel or anything. Have you?

    civil and pay for it Be civil. You mean, sit on the sidelines. Take benefits from the oil for food scam and let the people of Iraq die and starve while Saddam got all the money he needed? Those people?
     
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  13. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #133
    Excellent analysis lorien. I commend you on taking the effort to do this. I blew it off, because I knew that yo-yo was not serious. But, other readers of the thread will definitely benefit from your effort.
     
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  14. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #134
    It doesn't matter who supported or didn't support the government. It was a soveriegn nation and the US destroyed the government. You can leave all the spin out ;)

    Actually our initial bombing campaign destroyed much of iraq's infrastructure.
    Again, try leaving your spin out ;)

    All the deaths and killing are a result of US invasion. The blood is on the US hands.

    We'll see in time.

    Leaving your spin about what a bad boy saddam was and you have no point about anything other than trying to make excuses :rolleyes:
     
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  15. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #135
    Gonna cry now, yo?

    All viable military targets. But, it is your buddies that blow up banks, schools, police stations. One wonders why you always fail to omit that in your damage assessments? Curious.

    At least you freely admit that you miss having a murderous dictator in control of the country. That's a nice admission. You must be proud of yourself.

    I know. Cuz all Iraqis did before the invasion were fly kites, kiss puppies and sing kumbaya. Seems like you seem to forget (or not care about, take your pick) the millions of people who died beforehand. If you can turn a blind eye to that, I guess you can live happy.

    So you actually deny that countries such as France sat on the sidelines because they were getting kickbacks from the oil for food program? And that they had contracts in place under Saddam, which our invasion effectively wiped away. You think their motives were purely altruistic? You are more naive than I thought.

    But as long as American soldiers die, I know you are happy.
     
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  16. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #136
    spin doctor in da house! :rolleyes:
     
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  17. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #137
    Not sure which is sadder yo. Your inability to defend the argument; or you keeping make it over and over and not defending it. Can't decide. Care to help?
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #138
    Same here. There is only so many times you can go in circles. That and owning Yo get's boring. It's too easy. I like a challenge.

    And stomp his feet and jump up and down and scream... :D

    There are still people out there that think Hitler was a nice guy. Hell, some people might even say Germany was a "soverign nation". Yo's just young, angry and confused, so I take a lot of what he says as his way of dealing with some other stress or frustration he must have. Whatever steams your cream.
     
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  19. yo-yo

    yo-yo Well-Known Member

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    #139
    Because it has nothing to do with this, just you adding more spin and diversions from the actual topic.

    More spin.

    It doesn't really matter what was going on. The iraqi's lives were not the reason for the US invasion. again.. nothing but you adding in spin that has no relation to anything.

    American soldiers wouldn't be dying at all had you and your pals not sent them off to war, how's that for spin ;)
     
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  20. lorien1973

    lorien1973 Notable Member

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    #140
    It doesn't? The fact that your buddies cause 70% of the deaths has nothing to do with this? Head up ass, exactly how far?

    Is that your argument, now? Its all spin? spin spin spin? At least you used to try. Must suck to have such a defenseless position :(
     
    lorien1973, Oct 17, 2006 IP