Again, your cite says: "But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja." That does not say Iranian gas killed the Kurds. You can pretend it does, but the article you cited states no such fact. You are defending Saddam here. I don't need to put any spin on that. Where have I called Saddam a "genocidal maniac"? Or is that just your attempt to put words in my mouth. He brutalized his own people. Deal with that.
I was not saying anything bad about Russia or the USSR by pointing out the Cold War involved countries all over the world. It was just a history discussion. By no means do I think the USSR was a "nice" country. Although, it is a beautiful country. I was lucky enough to visit 20 years ago and took a wonderful train ride from Moscow to Leningrad (Saint Petersburg) in the dead of winter. It was a very interesting visit. I agree that there are many who have forgotten the horrid past of Communism. Sadly, history is likely to repeat itself. All the more reason for the US to stay the worlds number one military power by a wide margin. All the more reason for us to support fledgling democracies like Georgia, all the more reason for us to support countries like Israel.
Again, that same article has this written by the author: "But the truth is, all we know for certain is that Kurds were bombarded with poison gas that day at Halabja." You are citing one sides assertion, when the article itself takes a different position after taking that assertion into account. Others assert that it was Iraqi gas that killed the Kurds - and the article itself takes no certain position no matter how big or how many times you say it does. You really need an English refresher course. Do you even know what the word "asserted" means?
yeah, right. I dont think anything will change with situation over Georgia, NATO tries to scare us and at the same time: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/25/georgia.russia they can join nato and set a democracy any way they like, but without South Ossetia and Abkhaziya.
Of course i know, but this is a report from United States Defense Intelligence Agency, so it must be true.
I have nothing really against Russia either. The culture, the people, etc. The Government has generally not represented the people, it has oppressed its people and carried out whatever policies it has wanted to. And the USSR wasn't all bad either, it made Rocky IV and Ivan Drago possible .
The area that was bombed, on the map where it reads Havasin, Zap, Hakurk and Kandil(base), are the camps of the terrorist PKK, which the attacks on Turkish soil are planned and the militants are trained, they are located in northern Iraq, close to the border. But no operation has ever targetted the Northern Iraqi civillian territories nor the N.Iraqi official forces so far. So calling it "bombing the Kurds" would be like bombing Al Qaida and calling it "bombing Arabs". However, the tensions may rise in the future with ongoing presence of PKK in their region, and Kirkuk is another key issue.
well, they are kurds anyway (the once that want Kurdistan), and US did not like it. Care to explain why US didnt like that then ? Most media on the west are blaming Russia bombimg civilians in Georgia, when in fact they were bombing their military bases in Senaki and Gori and port Poti. If russians were to target civilians, there would be much more deaths on georgian side. Thats why I said kurds, too
That confirms my basic understanding; and if correct, I have no problems with Turkey's actions. They appear to be defending their territory.
double standards, and we appear to be not defending our borders and citizens when some idiot strikes with the whole army? But still, US said to stop it, Turkey didnt listen.
Actually, US opposed a full scale offensive, then it was settled on an operation limited to air strike, and that's what happened. As both NATO allies, Turkey - US disagreements, even though sometimes quite hectic, never reach a confrontation level. It'd not be accurate to compare with Russia - US, they are neck to neck right now and all number of standards are flying around mutually.
What double standard? I can't think of a situation where I opposed a sovereign nations right to defend itself.
You are saying different things) You support the Turkey's actions, but in reality US administration did not support them. oh, yeah. Thats how its been since the cold war and its hardly got warm since then, imho.
I have my own opinions that can differ from what the US does. I support my country, but do not agree with every action. I think the US gives tacit approval for what Turkey is doing anyhow.
And now the Bush admin treats them nicely? If you have traveled around the world before Bush and now you'll see the big difference how the world is viewing Americans now. Before Bush you could see people buying the US flag, T shirt with US flag on them, all kind of clothes with the US flag on them and etc.... NOW NO MORE! So much from the best defender of America - Bush and his neocon anti-American buddies. He made America look like Satan for the world.
I traveled the world before Bush was ever elected President and I am well aware of the damage he has done to our reputation and good will. You will not find many, if any, posts on this forum where I support Bush. That being said, I do support my country. Do you? (and if the answer is yes, which country is that?)
The eurotrash hated Ronald Reagan in the same way that they hate George Bush. Reagan - Tear Down This Wall http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjWDrTXMgF8