Iranian Forces Captured 15 British Marines

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  1. d16man

    d16man Well-Known Member

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    #21
    this whole deal is not over nuclear power, its over nuclear bombs....and yes, the US and Israel have Nuclear power and bombs....the difference is that they won't sell theirs on the black market or just let one go off for no reason...the mad moolahs would love to nuke israel...after all the joooos are not God's chosen people....muhammed was...
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #22
    And US doesnt do any weapon trades on black market? And Iran doesnt even have nuclear weapons yet, the opposition is that they are working on nuclear power, as if it's only right of US and Israel to implement nuclear power. And Israel implemetetion wasnt even confirmed by the united nations, they just say "well we have it" and what happened? Nothing. These double standards and hate doesnt do anybody any good.

    I'm a Muslim too. I'm Turkish. I don't hate US or Israel or whatever, i love the people, but your hyporcatcy and double standards in politics are really jacked. You never look into yourselves to find some mistakes. Those people with those banners dont go to streets because they dont like how you look, it's result of a charicature made insulting Mohammed. How would you act if some1 insulted Jesus?
     
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  3. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #23
    Really? I never would have guessed! :rolleyes:

    Ummm... what kind of idiot are you? People insult Jesus all of the time. We insult Jesus all of the time.

    Here's one of our popular musicians caricaturing Jesus on the cover of one of our most popular magazines:

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    If he's a God, he can take care of himself. If he's not a God, he's just a meatsicle. Either way, not a problem.

    It's called free speech and it's the single most important tenet of modern civilization.
     
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  4. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #24
    Idiot? What are you like 8 or something? Go play with your friends.

    And insulting Jesus or Mohammed or anybody else is not freedom of speech. There is no freedom for insulting people. You can tolerate being insulted as freedom but some people do not. And you should respect what others value. That sample you gave has nothing to do with that charicature, go search how it was made and then develop a twisted opinion about it, it's not at all an artistic work, it was a direct insult. But you wont like this either since you only like things matching your opinions, and hate others. US style.
     
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    #25
    What's freedom?
    http://wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=freedom

    There's no freedom in a duty to not insult others, it's just.. not nice.. but being nice and being free is two different things, in freedom, people can chose between being nice or being whatever they want to be.

    So freedom of speech means that you are free to express whatever you want.

    And yes, I agree that even Holocaust denying should be legal. Just the laws against it make it looks to some people that there's really is something dead wrong about the official holocaust history.
     
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  6. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Man we really have different perspectives about freedom of speech.

    You can't go tell people how holy it is to kill people who don't believe in god. Freedom of speech does not mean you have the right to violate laws or trigger crimes. Human rights are under protection of common laws and you can't insult people with the freedom undercover. You can't talk about porn to a little kid covering your wicked behaviours with freedom. There is no such freedom which lets you violate laws.
     
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    #27
    You don't have the human right to control the thoughts and words of other people.

    You need to learn the limits where your rights stop and my rights begin.

    Muhammed was a child molester, a thief, and a murderer. There, I said it. Now, come kill me.
     
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  8. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #28
    Some1 from US saying this, ironic isn't it
    Go talk to little girls about porn, record it, and show it to the police saying "look at me having freedom of speech" and see how they feel about your freedom.

    I think you are a subject for potential juvenile criminals, not a reason to waste my time.

    Come back when you grow up.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #29
    Come on, if you really believe in the religion which you are espousing, you will come murder me right now.

    There are 40 virgins, hot wet and waiting for you!
     
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    bochgoch Peon

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    #30
    Quite a bold statement - when did the British last run away with their tail between their legs?
     
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  11. Will.Spencer

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    #31
    Want to put some money on the outcome of this?

    I'll put down £100 saying that the Iranians receive no punishment for their unwarranted attack on British citizens.
     
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    #32
    again, the USA and Israel won't just fire one off....btw, you got proof that the US is selling things on the black market? here is proof Iran is getting rid of theres...

    http://www.newscloud.com/read/3987/
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4136856.stm
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,165213,00.html
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8NHMIB81&show_article=1


    Well, for one, I find it very different to insult a person as opposed to insulting God...i.e. muhammediwanttobloweveryoneup is just a human, while Jesus is one of the three "persons" (and by person i don't mean human) of God, who is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit....if you want to insult God, go ahead....its not me you are offending.
     
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  13. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    #33
    Like this? Or maybe not? Happens all the time, but you don't read stories about riots, blowing up embassies, burning down buildings, firing off rifles, killing nuns (ring a bell?), standing around collecting unemployment while holding up signs that call for beheadings, murder and inciting death among others, blowing shit up and generally causing mayhem around the world, like with *some* religions ;)

    Lead by example.
     
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    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #34
    That's how you believe, you can say Jesus is God and i can say he's not. We dont discuss religions here. Anyhow we have respect for Jesus and you religion as we see it as same God's religion not any different. So no insult is tolerated in our community towards Jesus or those other 2 "persons", however you see them.
     
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    #35
    So Leo, do you know what your holy book says about people of my religion?
     
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  16. LeoSeo

    LeoSeo Well-Known Member

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    #36
    I dont read stories about what? Man maybe you did not notice there are things going on in Iraq, watch the news. Why do you think this stuff happens? It's all based on same things. Just every1 has a different wat of reaction, does not mean you are saviors of the world and others are terrorists.
     
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    #37
    Of course i do, according to Islam, Christianity and Jewism are holy religions of same God we believe, to me Jesus isn't any lower than Muhammed, he is holy and my God's son too, or thats how we believe if you want me say it like this. Whoever told you otherwise lied. I know my "book" completely, don't doubt it.
     
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    #38
    Try again. I'm neither a Christian nor a Jew.

    P.S. You'll never get Jizyah from me!
     
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    #39
    And who is doing all of those killings in Iraq? Muslims!

    And who is trying to prevent the Muslims from murdering each other? Americans!
     
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  20. GTech

    GTech Rob Jones for President!

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    Leo, this pretty much sums it up:

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