Iran Or Isreal? Who Will Be The Victory?

Nothing new. every one knows that israel has been trying to get US to attack iran for a long time. even ther was a case of israeli spy in 2003. If he has any proof, he need to show it to our people. and it seems that he can not.
you can take this to the bank that there is no iranian attack in the agenda.

 

You can take it to the bank that Iran will not be allowed to acquire nuclear weapons.

 

The only way to achive this if possible would be with negotiations. I have pointed out to numerous reasons why a military action can and will only accelerate their weaponization if they have it.
but i must say that even if they do get it, it would not be a big deal. i prefer to use MAD rather than a new war. and it seems that there are a lot of people agree with me.
i have heared a lot of time people saying why this guy or that guy didn't say anything before the iraq war. well now we have a lot of people that are expressing their reservation. why not listen to them this time.

 

Bombing them will only deffinitely make them want to aquire nukes. Would be the stupidest thing to do.

 

You guys are all missing the point.

Since the beginning of the fanatical regime that currently controls Iran, their respective government has been found responsible for supporting terror by individual courts all over the world from South America, Europe and America.

Iran has been X'd by the entire world for over 20 years. The fact that Iran is not cooperating with the United Nations (which by the way represents all countries in the world and not just Israel).

The UN has been very clear that the world does not want Iran with a Nuke. Arab nations are all against Iran having nukes. Iranians are not "Arabs", nor do they speak arabic. So don't think for a second that neighboring Arab countries want the Iranians to have nukes.

When the entire world (via the UN) makes a declaration & resolution, those become "Official World Policy". This isnt an Israeli issue. Israel is only 5 million Jewish citizens on a strip of land the size of California.

There are 6 billion people on this earth represented by several hundred nations - and they ALL demand that Iran cooperate with the world community.

If Iran acquires nukes, you can bet your ass they will be a "super power" in the middle east. Can the world afford another superpower?

Nuclear technology takes years of research to develop and implement. Bombing a country back into the stone age, hence taking out all of their civil engineered cities (Electricity, Phone & Communications, and perhaps even a EMP (electromagnetic pulse) that is created by the fall out of a nuke. The EMP becomes a magnetic field of energy that causes high voltage surges. Then comes the shockwave and finally the heat.

A nuke would literally put them back into the stone age.

The current Iranian regime would seize to exist and/or run any type of Government. Imagine the entire city of Los Angeles just disappearing. Seriously, not individual homes disappearing, Im talking about a whole city (in the 18 mile radius of groundzero) would be gone. No ashes and no dust. Just fucking gone.

So if Iran does get nuked, there wont be any response.

But I imagine that the attack wont be using nukes. Just smart bunker bombs to penetrate under ground facilities that can lock on to key locations of the nuclear development facilities. I think only if Iran gets crazy and sends chemical war missles would Israel be bold enough to send a nuke.

 

Sharepro, you make me sick and you are an extremeist. I sincerly hope the average American does not share the same views as you.

 

thank you Sheetrit. i love his anwer to the 3:am question.

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/1013752.html
am i right or am i right

http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1219218601145&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
and more on the subject. i do not agree with some of her conclusion
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?cid=1218710396905&pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull
i just saw it unfolding earlier

 

if US will get into this , they will just sink even more. Triple the Iraqies expenses + troops if not more.

 

@ NFS - War is generally called in to protect financial or key interests of a different country. In this case, what do you do if somebody in your neighborhood is seeking nuclear technology - and could have effects giving you cancer? And the person doesn't adhere to anybody and refuses to talk?

I mean it's not the Iranian people that need to be bombed. It's the political regime. I think that if they are attacked, the local people will switch the government. Most people only give a shit about feeding their families and taking care of their children. The average Iranian doesnt give a shit about Israel or Jewish people and vice versa. We are not on their border, and no Iranian military has ever set foot on the land of Israel to fight us.

Rather instead, they finance the Hizbollah and Hamas. But Iran is a threat to the world. Not to Israel.

The question is not how much a war costs because if Iran makes a mistake with nuclear technology, either another Russian Chernobyl (nuclear leak causing thousands to die and get cancer) or a bomb will blow. I dont think that the world can afford such a gamble.

@ Pizzaman - It's nice to see that your up-to-date on local Israel politics - but you should also note that Meir Sheetreet has the lowest chance of winning. He is currently 6% of the vote in his political party. You should check what Shaul Mofaz - who has 43% of the Kadima vote and is in 2nd place to win. He says BOMBING IRAN IS UNAVOIDABLE. He is the Ex-Military Chief of Staff, and he is far more popular than Sheetreet.

You can be 100% sure that Sheetreet is a non-respected politician that literally has zero chance to be elected in. I mean he is a very bad example and posting his words shows how little you know about Israeli politics.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...threatens-to-strike-Iran's-nuclear-plans.html

 

Thanks for your genuine concern, but America will be just fine.

We don't shy away from a problem because it may be tough. We certainly won't sell out our allies over monetary concerns.

 

You're completely insane.

Tell me what this solves, bombing one country so they don't potentially bomb another?

It solves absolutely nothing.

 

Actually it solves a lot. Just depends on which side one is on. If I'm out with my family and some nutjob comes up and says he's going to kill my family, I'm not going to wait for him to follow through, before taking action.

Some might sympathize with the man making the initial threat, after he's dead. I'd like to think there's a lesson to be learned there. Don't go around threatening to kill others.

 

So if someone says they're going to kill you and you kill them first what do you think is going to happen to you? How many years in jail do you think you would get?

 

Israel would win. Israel is the real fighting force.

 

I guess if someone threatened my wife or kids, I should not do anything, I wouldn't want to go to jail... NOT!

You threaten my family... end of story. Not my job to be concerned if I go to jail, my job is to protect them.

Wow, it is amazing how some people think....

 

So if someone says they're going to kill you what are you going to do?

Kill them?

I'm not talking about playing mister macho in a forum, but I'm talking about real life here.

I've had people say "I'm going to fucking kill you" in anger to me --- so you're saying I should have killed this person?

It is amazing how some people think, isnt it?

 

Of course not. But when you see them starting to assemble weapons to carry out their threat. That might be the time to neutralize those weapons.

 

I have yet to harm anyone who just said idle or foolish words.

Make a move towards my family or show me the weapon and I won't be asking questions or waiting for you to follow through.

 

It's probably a good job you live in the US mate because a lot of countries that your hero Bush is ruining you would be doing that on a daily basis.

 

Of course it is. Best damn country in the world to live in. He's real fortunate to live here.