Iran kills another of it's own nuclear scientists

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  1. The Webby

    The Webby Peon

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    #21
    I would be very happy if CIA or MOSSAD do it..
    Is it an act of terrorism? I don't give a fuck.. Had they blown up A.Q. Khan few years ago, North Korea wouldn't have gotten nukes...
     
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  2. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #22
    Saddam killed people, that's no secret. But I'm talking about the sanctions, that killed a half million children.

    I think you should help yourself before you help anyone else.

    If Kuwait had no oil, nobody would lift a finger.

    Romney is not president.
     
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  3. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #23
    Sanctions killed people? You think Saddam didn't have enough money to feed his people during sanctions? You think there are no actions that Saddam could have taken to be rid of sanctions?
     
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  4. Mikaël2

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    #24
    Have you been living under a cardboard box for the last 20 years? Yes they killed a half million children, most of them under the age of 5.
     
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  5. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #25
    Were you planning on answering either questions?

    Here they are again:

    1. You think Saddam didn't have enough money to feed his people during sanctions?
    2. You think there are no actions that Saddam could have taken to be rid of sanctions?

    Here's one more you can answer while you are at it.

    Do you think the US or any other country is obligated to do business with Iraq or buy their oil?
     
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  6. Mikaël2

    Mikaël2 Member

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    #26
    I don't remember saying that its an obligation. You made the claim that the "US is engaged in purely humanitarian efforts", that's when I brought up the sanctions. What you should be asking is whether isolating a country is a humanitarian thing to do or not.
     
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  7. boblord666

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    #27
    You again gloat over the fact that someone has died and when even the US has condemned the act. The bloke was a university lecturer, an actual achiever in life heading towards his day job and was outside the university where he was employed. You have defined this person as a military target. You are one sad dude.
     
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  8. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #28
    So I'll take that as a "No", you have no intention of answering any of the three questions. In that spirit, I'll provide the obvious answers to you.

    1) Did Saddam have enough money to feed his people during sanctions?
    Yes

    2) Could Saddam have taken actions to be rid of sanctions?
    Yes

    3) Is the US or any other country obligated to do business with Iraq or buy their oil?
    No

    and your question

    4) Would refusal to buy Iraq's oil be a non-humanitarian thing to do?
    No


    Given the obvious answers to these questions, here is another obvious truth. Sanctions didn't kill Iraqis. Saddam killed Iraqis.
     
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  9. earlpearl

    earlpearl Well-Known Member

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    #29
    While I find the thread interesting the title made me think of this guy:

    [video=youtube;pkYNBwCEeH4]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkYNBwCEeH4[/video]
     
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  10. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #30
    An Israeli general was quoted the other day as saying,"Israel will do everything in it's power to prevent a war with Iran,so we must stop them with any and all means available in developing a nuclear bomb.We must do what we must to prevent a war".
    It wasn't the CIA that did the nuclear scientist in.Nor was it the CIA that got the other Iranian scientist last month.And oh yes,you know that "mysterious" explosion that happened at that Iranian nuclear facilty awhile back? Who do you suppose orchastrated that?
     
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  11. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #31
    I'd say I got the idea from you, but that would only be partially true. After listening to ad after ad take a Romney soundbite out of context, promoting the idea he likes to fire people, I had an apithany. Nobody cares about the truth. It would seem every modern day publicist is a student of Joseph Goebbels.

    Think about it. Every legitimate pundit acknowleges that the quote played in context has a completely different and valid meaning. If the pundits can figure it out (not like it's tough), do you think Gingrich's Super PAC people can figure it out? Of course they can. They quite simply don't care. They know if they promote it, Maddow, Olbermnn and O'donnel are certain to pick it up and repeat it, knowing full well it's bullshit. A guy like you would happily pick it up and repeat it knowing it's bullshit. They know if they pound the airwaves with it, there will be a statistically significant portion of voters who won't take the time to figure out if it is bullshit, and will vote based on said bullshit.

    So, in the spirit of Romney's love of firing people, the Republican's zealous hatred of anyone but white people, the Democrat's single minded goal to bring Marxism to the United States, Obama's forged birth certificate, the jewish conspiracy to manipulate the world economy, and the US's desire to kill babies and starve poor people in foreign nations, I've decided to quit complaining about it and get on the band wagon.

    I think the world will be a lot safer place when they quit killing their scientists for political purposes. Very sad indeed.
     
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  12. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #32
    Did you just unconsciously admit that you are a pathological lier? :)
     
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  13. The Webby

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    #33
    I don't know, anything would be a mere speculation..

    As I said I would be happy if CIA or Mossad do things like that.. I'm not sure if they actually did it.
     
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  14. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    #34
    Of course not. I was simply addressing Earlpearl's accusation by pointing out how many others are.

    Here is Hillary Clinton, backing my version of things:

    Here she makes clear. It wasn't the USA, and Iran needs to end it's provocative behavior (Quit killing it's own scientists and blaming others for it).
     
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  15. Spoiltdiva

    Spoiltdiva Acclaimed Member

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    #35
    O.K. let's stop the B.S. if you please.The OP is at it again(tonque in cheek satire),some of you for some inexplicable reason don't seem to get it........The Americans had nothing to do with the recent events in Iran.The Iranians didn't do it either.So.............
    Who has the most to lose should Iran develop a nuclear bomb? Enough already with the speculations.I don't need to call in Sherlock Holmes in order to solve this "mystery".
     
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  16. boblord666

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    #36
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    Looks like the blokes son would be too young to care who murdered his father too. So I guess everything is just swell, the world is a safer place.
     
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  17. Obamanation

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    #37
    Horrible to see Iran creating orphans like the one in your picture! What is wrong with those people?
     
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  18. The Webby

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    #38
    That's very unfortunate for him, my sympathies.. Life is unfair sometimes, if his father's killer is ever caught I'd be equally happy to see him going to gallows.
     
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  19. boblord666

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    #39
    Guess they are doing it to inspire other people.

    "Gary Sick, a specialist on Iran at Columbia University, said he believed that the covert campaign, combined with sanctions, would not persuade Iran to abandon its nuclear work.

    ''It's important to turn around and ask how the US would feel if our revenue was being cut off, our scientists were being killed and we were under cyber attack,'' Mr Sick said. ''Would we give in, or would we double down? I think we'd fight back, and Iran will, too.''"

    Read more: http://www.theage.com.au/world/covert-action-in-iran-on-rise-20120112-1pxg1.html#ixzz1jHRDdgMA
     
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  20. boblord666

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    #40
    I'm pleased you show some compassion and humanity, my faith is partially restored.
     
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