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IP justification declined

Discussion in 'Site & Server Administration' started by SoniCute, May 8, 2007.

  1. #1
    guys,hope this right forum to ask.

    I just submit justification about additional IPs but they refuse my request,any suggestion what justification must I said to them should be appreciated.

    I dont want 1 IPs used by 3 sites.

    My previous justification is I need additional IPs due my site need unique IP for each site,but tey refuse my request.

    Thanks.
     
    SoniCute, May 8, 2007 IP
  2. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    Because there is a shortage of IP addresses, ARIN requires valid justification for issuing IP addresses. They will only assign you additional IPs if what you are doing cannot be achieved with a shared IP.

    As far as I know, the only three justifications are

    1) SSL Certificate
    2) New Physical Device on the web (ie like a Dedicated Server) or
    3) Domain Name Servers

    Everything else would not be considered justifiable. SEO purposes is no longer a valid reason.
     
    eddy2099, May 8, 2007 IP
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  3. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    Thanks eddy2099,I submit again the justification,hope they give me additional IPs
     
    SoniCute, May 8, 2007 IP
  4. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    Oh yes, if you submit a particular justification, you will need to do what you plan to do for the justification or else the IP address may be taken out from you.
     
    eddy2099, May 8, 2007 IP
  5. plumsauce

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    Is that ICANN or ARIN?

    The justifications are available on the web site.
    .
     
    plumsauce, May 9, 2007 IP
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    SSL is a good justification IMO.
     
    agnivo007, May 9, 2007 IP
  7. eddy2099

    eddy2099 Peon

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    Yeah, you are right, it is ARIN. :)
     
    eddy2099, May 9, 2007 IP
  8. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    #8
    Eddy is spot on there. But to be honest, I highly doubt there isn't much SEO value in having them on separate IPs. Most hosts would only have the same C Class anyway so it's still a dead give away they are all you. And Google being a registrar they have several means of finding out who owns what.

    So, either don't bother and don't add to the IP scarcity with artificial demands or indeed blag it with the need for SSL. But at least then actually go get a cheap SSL certificate.
     
    T0PS3O, May 9, 2007 IP
  9. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    Bad news guys,all reason above still declined,what other justification must needed.
     
    SoniCute, May 9, 2007 IP
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    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Get a new host. No one would decline a new IP for an SSL cert.
     
    T0PS3O, May 9, 2007 IP
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    sachin410 Illustrious Member

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    Strange...my host offered me 4 dedicated IPs (I have a reseller account) and last time I asked for one..I wasn't asked the reason.
     
    sachin410, May 9, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    I suggest that you host a place where you just can buy IPs for $1 or $2 a month without questions. But millions of sites on the web are on the same IP, why not you ?
     
    login, May 9, 2007 IP
  13. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    Yeah that good advise,I searching fo new company.They only reply with message below.

    "Just apply your SSL certified to available IPs bla bla bla"

    Very strange,ven my server is dedicated but I am not lucky

    This really make me crazy,I just drop the email again why so ificult get nw IPs with right justification.

    :mad:
     
    SoniCute, May 9, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    Who is your host ?
     
    login, May 9, 2007 IP
  15. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    Servstra and I am a old customer :(
    They really good on support but with this case,I am really give up :(
     
    SoniCute, May 9, 2007 IP
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    In addition, you MUSt have used or will use 80% of IP addresses in order to be allocated more IP addresses.
     
    inworx, May 9, 2007 IP
  17. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    Not only 80%,I use them 100% from available IPs :)

    By the way thanks for all reply guys,I really appreciated it.
     
    SoniCute, May 10, 2007 IP
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    login Notable Member

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    I asked servstra if I could get extra IPs there and they said "if you need ssl you will get it".
     
    login, May 10, 2007 IP
  19. SoniCute

    SoniCute Active Member

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    But the truth they only suggest me to apply SSL cert to available IPs,NOT give me a new one.

    Its okay,I am on research for new home for my site,thanks for your help.
     
    SoniCute, May 10, 2007 IP
  20. eddy2099

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    So far those dedicated server providers that I used would provide a small number of IP addresses without the need for justification but after that, you need to justify for each IP you request for.

    You probably need to find one which does not follow the rules of ARIN to the letter.
     
    eddy2099, May 10, 2007 IP