Interesting Study: "Religious Muslim boys more violent, study says

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    Religious Muslim boys more violent, study says

    A study that shows boys growing up in religious Muslim families are more likely to be violent seems set to reignite the debate over religion and integration, a media report said on Sunday.

    The study, which involved intensive questioning of 45,000 teenagers from 61 towns and regions across the country, was conducted by Christian Pfeiffer of the criminal research institute of Lower Saxony.

    Pfeiffer said he was dismayed by the results, and told the Süddeutsche Zeitung he was a strong critic of political campaigns which painted foreigners as criminals – such as those led by Roland Koch and Thilo Sarrazin.

    Pfeiffer’s work took into account the level of education and standard of living in the families of the children – aged between 14 and 16 – who were questioned. He also asked them how religious they considered themselves, and how integrated they felt in Germany.

    Pfeiffer said that even when other social factors were taken into account, there remained a significant correlation between religiosity and readiness to use violence. There were some positive correlations too he said, noting that young religious Muslims were much less likely than their non-Muslim counterparts to drink alcohol – or to steal from shops.

    The increased likelihood to use violence was restricted to Muslim boys Pfeiffer said – Muslim girls were just as likely to be violent as non-Muslim girls.
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    http://www.thelocal.de/society/20100606-27673.html
     
    ST12, Sep 17, 2010 IP
  2. ApocalypseXL

    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    Interesting I knew that less educated people (idiots) are more prone to violent actions but I expected that the Turks in Germany to have integrated by now . No wander that the chief of the German National Bank said that they contribute only to crime and that they do nothing good for the economy . This study will only bolster that kind of mentality .
     
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    i agree this is 100% right.
     
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    I think such type of People should be tied with Missiles burn them also.
     
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    ApocalypseXL Notable Member

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    Who should be tied the violent young men or the people that elaborated this study ? I don't understand your position .
     
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    We needed a study for this?
     
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    LOL, probably more propaganda.
     
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    Germany has some strict laws against any form of propaganda and manipulation so if you're trying to post bull from their country you'll get a nice visit from the authorities . When a study such as this is published the organization that carried out the study usually keeps the materials used into storage to back up the study . Given the amount of subjects the study can claim a very high accuracy , so you're paranoid idea of "propaganda" is ridiculous to say the least .
     
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    Its true for every religion.

    More religious a person is, more possessive he will act about his religion. Regardless of being Muslim, Hindu, Jew, Christian.

    Ever read comments on youtube videos? Or been in yahoo rooms? Indian and Pakistani guys are abusing, fighting and even giving death threats to each other all the time over religion and country.


    Slaughtering a cow
    , paintings of Hindu deities and other similar stuff can outrage religious Hindus easily into giving death threats and offering millions of dollars of bounty for killing that artist.

    But a lot of moderate Hindus still remain calm and peaceful.

    So, any religious person will act possessive and somewhat violent in some situations, regardless of which religion he belongs to.
     
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  10. Will.Spencer

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    It is intellectually dishonest to equate the violence levels of Islam and Hinduism. During Ramadan 2010, for example, 1,028 people were murdered in 226 attacks committed in the name of Islam. In the same time period, 1 person was murdered in 1 attack in the name of Hinduism. This statistics are quite clear -- Islam is a belief system which causes violence.
     
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    Look at the location of the aptly named Idiot Inside and you'll know where he's coming from
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    And heading to.
     
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    beg to differ. its the insecurity that leds to possessiveness. be it religion or matter of love (lover or spouse) or whatever.

    much, if not all of the Hindu extremism can be attributed as a response to islamic extremism/terrorism. take MF Hussain for example (the link you provided). the paintings were done in '70. no controversy then, but all the hulla bolo began now.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M._F._Husain#Controversies

    yes you are right extremist lies in every societies. but the point of interest should be how the masses treat them. i give you an example. sometimes back a group of Hindu extremists attacked a pub hitting few innocent ladies. the civil soceity hit back by starting the pink panty movement. soon the media too exposed the fundamentalist as nothing but as a person who makes his living as a trouble maker. needless to say the person is no longer heard.

    now compare this with the islamic world. if a hardliner mulla issues a fatwa banning girls from going to school, or asking them to wear burkha, the islamic society without any delay would tune in to the diktat. ppl refusing the same will either be stoned to death or acid thrown to their faces. do i need to give any links. dont think so.
     
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    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    True.

    If more people understood that, the world would be a better place.
     
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    Not always true. Otherwise we wouldn't be fighting the religious radicalism at all. Ask a muslim if he feels insecurity is his reason to follow his faith
     
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    If they felt secure in their religion, they wouldn't worry that people are making cartoons mocking their stupid god. It's only because they lack faith in their gods ability to protect himself that they feel the need to murder cartoonists. If their god smote people with thunderbolts from heaven when they mocked him, his idiot followers would not be insecure. Instead, he doesn't exist and can't do shit when people laugh at him, therefore his idiot followers are insecure and wander around trying to murder cartoonists.

    Similarly, Muslims men make laws against adultery because they are afraid that their wives will leave them otherwise. They are insecure. They don't have the faith in themselves to believe that any woman would stay with them of their own free will.

    Insecurity (and low self esteem) are the veiled causes of many of the difficulties in the world.
     
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    Insecurity may lead to possessiveness in the general sense of saying it but when we look into why religious muslims are more violent, we know it is the religious zealotry and the very high level of indoctrination by the chauvinistic quran, sharia and hadiths. It's not their lack of faith but very high amounts of it in their god that pushes them to take lives. It's the diktats, the hadiths that tell people to issue fatwas, behead people etc. So, fanaticism in a way is a manifestation of religious faith.
     
    Alevoor, Oct 21, 2010 IP