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Discussion in 'ODP / DMOZ' started by Anonymously, Oct 24, 2007.

  1. Qryztufre

    Qryztufre Prominent Member

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    #141
    What are you talking about? Are you trying to say calling people names is not trolling, or that what you quoted was some how untrue? Sorry, the only droning that is being done here is editors trolling this forum, and I guess me pointing it out... but then, I'd likely not be doing that if you'd stop posting trash like you have here.

    I have not lied, and I have not called anyone names, so go on, try to make me look bad ~ I mean, personal attacks against me ARE your only defense are they not?
     
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  2. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #142
    Yep. I'm afraid that's all they have. As Gworld pointed out, the kiddie porn support network is still there. The pro-anorexia sites are still there. The "how to kill yourself" sites are still there. The selective deeplinks are still there. The festering ingroup is still there tossing out any who question what they do or say. The smell of death and rotting flesh still permeates the inner sanctum at DMOZ.

    The only way these poor misfits have of defending the directory is to attempt to kill the messengers with adolescent slurs.

    Again, Q, I would advise you to ignore them. That really is the only way to deal with trolls. It's not like anyone reading this thread will be at all confused about who the trolls are.
     
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  3. Alucard

    Alucard Peon

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    #143
    I love it when I can agree so whole-heartedly with something Minstrel says.

    This whole discussion has wandered off into the usual baiting and agenda pushing/mocking (on both sides). Since all topics raised in here have been dealt with in numerous other threads on DP to the extent that the can ever be dealt with on here, I just wonder why it continues?

    To the people who have points to make about the faults of the ODP - I think that anybody reading any thread on this forum now understands your point of view. Repeating them further will not make AOL, webmasters, or the editors reading this, understand any better. To the ODP editors posting here - the bickering and jabs won't change anybody's mind on the issues and, if anything, makes the ODP look even worse, rather than better.

    Everybody - ask yourself... seriously - why do you continue doing this? If you have new points to make, make them. If you haven't got an answer to your beef the past 24 times you brought it up in the thread, what makes you think that the 25th time is going to make any difference? Ivan, Popotalk and Qryztufre - I think we all understand why you are upset with the ODP and the powers that be there. None of the people posting here are metas or staff and so they have no access to the decision-making process that went on. If people were going to resign as a consequence of how you were treated, they would have already done so.

    I think I have brought up this quote before on here, but it seems like all sides are just "doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results" - that's Einstein's definition of insanity, by the way.

    Having an open, honest and frank forum to discuss the ODP is a good thing, but this constant repetition of all points (whether critic or editor), hoping to finally get a different result, is to my way of thinking a waste of effort on both sides. It's starting to feel like "point-scoring" rather than a true discussion. And to each of you, before giving the usual knee-jerk reaction, blaming the other side for starting it... look in the mirror. Before you hit that "Submit reply" button - think about whether what you are about to post really is an effective point, or if it is just adding to the noise...

    I'm obviously not a moderator here, so have no right to tell people how to behave, so please take these just as friendly suggestions for the sake of your own mental health. :)
     
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  4. crowbar

    crowbar Peon

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    #144
    Editing out. It doesn't need to be said.
     
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  5. popotalk

    popotalk Notable Member

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    #145
    Your too serious please Refresh Yourself and Break Free . Found a Better Version.

    :)
     
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  6. Ivan Bajlo

    Ivan Bajlo Peon

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    #146
    Isn't it obvious? To get our post count up of course! :eek:

    Metas are here, don't worry about that, they just haven't created account and posted, but lurkers are more then plenty - or I wouldn't be removed since they couldn't find anything wrong with my editing log they used few words said here do to manufacture evidence which suited their accusation - it wouldn't surprise me if they even used robjones method and claimed I have said something without backing it up and simply used it as excuse to remove me.
     
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  7. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #147
    Yes, our slurs are merely adolescent, your slurs, such as calling us "poor misfits", are SO much more adult. LOL. :D



    As for who the trolls are... when our esteemed purveyor of psychobabble knowingly states ominous sounding lines like...
    ...it is cogent to note that since he's never been IN dmoz he is just once more making up his own facts on a topic where he hasn't a clue (which seems to be his strong suit).:rolleyes:
     
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    nebuchadrezzar Peon

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    #148
    Complete and utter bollocks. I seem to recall not so long ago your smarmy suggestions that I and other editors were child molesters. How is that not a personal attack? Time to climb off your high horse there buddy. You set the tone for our exchanges not I.
     
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  9. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #149
    You know as well as I do that your precious inner sanctum leaks like the proverbial sieve. You know nothing about me or my sources. I understand that it serves your purposes to discount anything I say because I haven't been an editor but the fact that you attack that rather than my criticisms isn't lost on anyone reading this thread.

    Neither is the fact that you haven't addressed at all these points from my previous post:

     
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  10. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #150
    PORN
    What I can tell you about "porn" is that I had a fair involvement in avoiding its encroachment into the main portion of the directory because unlike you I have a history involving more than just ineffective sniping from the wings.

    DEEPLINKS
    Not a question of corruption, just policy. When you create a directory you set it, when someone else creates one, they do. That's how it works in the real world.

    ETC, ETC....
    Our policy is to list websites... that is pretty much the answer to your other questions. There are plenty in there I don't approve of, but unless you really want to see a directory disappear you don't list only sites everyone in the directory likes. If they put ME in charge of that issue there will be no porn section, no anti-gun sites, the Democratic party and half the GOP will only be found in Yahoo, and basically anything else I don't like will go away too.

    So, are you gonna leave my tastes in charge, or are we just supposed to let you decide? If it's you, be sure and tell me who (OK, besides you) thinks you're qualified and how many are certifiably crazy.

    It Must Be So Exciting to be you... LOL
    Having answered your OT questions I'll go ponder those mysterious sources you referred to... and laugh my buns off at how serious you take yourself while everyone else is laughing uncontrollably. :D

    btw - Sorry 'bout the Pre-Minstrel Syndrome thing. You come in once a month, act like a pain for a few days, leave... you can see how I mighta thought your name was just mis-spelled. ;)
     
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  11. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #151
    You haven't answered them at all. All you've done is parrot more of the DMOZ party line.

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/02/14/aol-owned-dmoz-directory-promotes-child-pornography/

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/05/02/dmoz-and-web-sites-promoting-anorexia-and-self-injury/

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/04/15/dmoz-still-listing-pro-pedophilia-sites/

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2006/05/30/dmoz-still-promoting-pro-anorexia-pro-self-injury-sites/

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2007/06/08/dmoz-reaches-a-new-low/

    http://blog.psychlinks.ca/2007/02/09/when-do-our-children-become-first-priority/
     
    minstrel, Nov 1, 2007 IP
  12. robjones

    robjones Notable Member

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    #152
    You misunderstand. My intent was to answer them to the satisfaction of thinking persons who might be reading this, not you. Nobody assumes that answering questions will satisfy someone who will only be happy when the world drops its insistence on self direction and simply does his bidding. :rolleyes:
     
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  13. minstrel

    minstrel Illustrious Member

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    #153
    As I suspected... That's really all you have, isn't it, robjones? Platitudes approved by DMOZ.

    Thanks for sharing. :rolleyes:
     
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    robjones Notable Member

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    #154
    "...the DMOZ party line..."
    "...Platitudes approved by DMOZ..."


    Yes, I see the fact that those inside the directory have consistent answers bothers you. The absence of evidence isn't always a sign that someone stole the evidence, it might just mean your conspiracy theories are guano.

    Wrap the tinfoil a little looser, Minstrel... it seems to be constricting the blood flow. :)
     
    robjones, Nov 1, 2007 IP