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Interesting Dispute Imminent

Discussion in 'Domain Names' started by clasione, Apr 28, 2005.

  1. #1
    There is a large search engine optimization firm in California USA that operates under the name "SEO Inc." and has it's website located at seoinc.com - I'm sure most of you know about this company.

    Coincidentily, I registered the domain name seoincorporated.com back in January of this year.

    Turns out that their website was banned from the Google index early this month (April) , leaving this huge search engine optimization firm nowhere to be found in the Google search engine.

    Once your site is banned from Google, it's pretty much known or atleast suspected that you'd better off just buy another name rather then try and get a re-inclusion as it rarely happens...

    I'd bet that they are already in the works of putting something together for this name as I would imagine it would be a must have for me if I were in their shoes....

    What do you think I should do if they make a request for it... Since "SEO" is an abbreviation of an entire industry, would I be subject to infringment if my firm is also a "search engine optimization" firm which is "incorporated"?
    SEMrush
     
    clasione, Apr 28, 2005 IP
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  2. noppid

    noppid gunnin' for the quota

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    #2
    Well in Florida you can't do business with the word INC. or Incorporated in your name unless you are. So there may be more then one way for anyone to cause you grief if there are similar laws governing you where you are.

    But I'm no attorney.
     
    noppid, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  3. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    You would get an expert opinion at DNforum, but you need a membership
     
    fryman, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  4. clasione

    clasione Well-Known Member

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    I think I'm registered there, lemme take a look....

    good lookin fryman ;)
     
    clasione, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  5. clasione

    clasione Well-Known Member

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    that place must be doing amazin to charge for membership.... I think I'll pay to get in....

    I'll take the silver membership for $6 bucks though....

    jeez, they want $50 bucks for the signature feature... :eek:
     
    clasione, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  6. fryman

    fryman Kiss my rep

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    Use the silver membership just for browsing around and asking a few questions, since you won't be taken seriously unless you get at least a Platinum.

    Also take a look at the restrictions, I don't know on what boards a silver is allowed to post.
     
    fryman, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  7. sarahk

    sarahk iTamer Staff

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    I guess it comes down to how committed to that name you are. Given that you have no content on it I'd say they can have it via ebay and set a decent reserve. But let them initiate the purchase.

    Sarah
     
    sarahk, Apr 28, 2005 IP
  8. clasione

    clasione Well-Known Member

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    well I just found out that they can't take it....

    It's not their legal name....

    I should be fine

    The company that would have the best chance at taking it won't care....
    (real estate / mortgage company)

    And the one that would want to take it, it's NOT thir legal name, but an abbreviation.... Still many difficulties ahead if they were to attempt aquisition...

    2 entities from California Corporations

    SEO, INC. - Home & Real Estate Loans & Mortgages
    Number: C2242187 Date Filed: 1/2/2001 Status: active
    Jurisdiction: California
    Address
    2431 W COAST HWY STE 205
    NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92663
    Agent for Service of Process
    STEVE OLSEN
    2431 W COAST HWY STE 205
    NEWPORT BEACH, CA 92663

    _______________________________________________

    SEARCH ENGINE OPTIMIZATION INC.
    Number: C2421743 Date Filed: 6/26/2002 Status: active
    Jurisdiction: California
    Address
    6183 PASEO DEL NORTE STE 250
    CARLSBAD, CA 92009
    Agent for Service of Process
    GARRY GRANT
    2408A SACADA CIR
    CARLSBAD, CA 92009
     
    clasione, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  9. T0PS3O

    T0PS3O Feel Good PLC

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    Simple supply and demand rules should make this worth a lot to them.
     
    T0PS3O, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  10. clasione

    clasione Well-Known Member

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    you know, I actually feel a little guilty.... I just went back to thier forum an noticed that the admin that finally added an avatar is Garry Grant himself...

    We had some short discussions back and forth, but now I can actually see who I was speaking to.....

    What an awkward position this puts me in......
     
    clasione, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  11. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    If you offer to sell the domain, either on eBay or directly to any of the parties you are concerned about, you automatically weaken your position should you try to defend the domain as this action would be used against you in a court and/or to the registering body if any of the existing named companies decide they wished to pursue you in court for the domain.
     
    mcfox, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  12. yfs1

    yfs1 User Title Not Found

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    Mcfox - Would putting content on it rather than having it for sale like it is now stregthen Clasiones case in this situation?
     
    yfs1, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  13. mcfox

    mcfox Wind Maker

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    Absolutely; although the content must not infringe on any existing trademarks or intellectual property currently held by any of the potential threats to domain ownership, if any.
     
    mcfox, Apr 29, 2005 IP
  14. clasione

    clasione Well-Known Member

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    I was previously using it with forwarding to my company at www.searchen.com

    but I discover that godaddy, the registra was using a 302 redirect so I just put it on sedo...

    I don't know what the heck to do with it now because I don't want to forward it anywhere.....

    I'm just going to leave it on sedo for now, i think....
     
    clasione, Apr 29, 2005 IP