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Discussion in 'Programming' started by occultfish, Mar 31, 2013.

  1. occultfish

    occultfish Member

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    #21
    It's ok, I currently have no other people assisting me with the project. I have a sloppy knowledge of sql, php, html5 and a bit of javascript (I can learn more , but it's impossible to learn everything while going through college).
    As I said before, I lack funds, realistically my team wold be working on charity until the project begins to roll. I have a feeling that a community-lead website that does not encourage privacy , like facebook, can quickly begin to roll in 1000$/month from advertising just by randomly ranking in search engines (like a meme generator).
    With that money, some will be used to pay costs of equipment, service(dedicated connection) etc. The rest will be used to advertise. So at 1000$/month, we will still be running on charity.
    When that hits 2500$, everyone that has been in on the project will begin to slowly be paid for their work , I know it sounds like pennies , but I will settle for people that have 1 hour a day to spare to the project.
    Since we will be spending a large chunk of monthly income on advertising, I think that will pay us back 10 fold in the future , because obviously someone might decide to "give it a try"
    Just getting one person on as a user, whom would genuinely enjoy the project would be a major victory. The reason I say that is "every one person in the world is probably connected to everyone else somehow". Like if I referred this to my theoretical uncle, who refers two of his friends, and they refer two friends each, and those friends refer 2-4 friends each. It's a domino effect.

    As far as leading the project, I guess I really need people to begin with a core "CMS" style product , I hate cms systems due to their inability to be modded easily,[+security problems] but I need my entire team to be "on the same page". If I just tell them all to be working in php, we will have a mess that would take longer to integrate than it would to create.

    Of-course I have every intention to separate people based on their expertise to certain fields of the designated project , we cant have everyone do everything, like I said above, nobody can really learn all of a scripting language.

    Once the concepts of every project have been molded and fully integrated with the core, we can have everyone meet up and discuss what we want the project to look like, and how to effectively integrate everything into a truly unique user experience.

    Once the integration is done, we will send it live. If any bugs are reported, people that worked on their specific field will be tasked with "troubleshooting" and patching problems.

    When the profit margin begins to skyrocket, our developers can further develop the website, adding more features , and crafting something truly revolutionary!

    But as was famously said , money is the root of all troubles. So I might have to solo this for a very, very long time. A project that might take a team of 10 less than six months will probably take me two years, and man I have a ton to learn >.>
     
    occultfish, Apr 12, 2013 IP
  2. vangel

    vangel Active Member

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    #22
    seems like you do have a plan. However you need to get out of relying on ad revenue alone. Have back up plan. Trust me, ad revenues can fluctuate wildly for new projects for as long as it might take.
     
    vangel, Apr 12, 2013 IP
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    #23
    I don't want to sound rough but have you even once tried to realise a project before?


    http://diasporaproject.org/

    And if you really want to lead a project of that dimension you should have knowledge of software engineering - web engineering.

    Anyway I wish you good luck.
     
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  4. vangel

    vangel Active Member

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    #24
    diaspora project looks good. It is ofcourse a major project with lot of work put in. Then again it also justifies where niche is necessary. Look at stackoverflow as opposed to reddit.
     
    vangel, Apr 12, 2013 IP
  5. occultfish

    occultfish Member

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    #25
    Stackoverflow probably makes more than reddit each year , but the idea is already monopolized by yahoo answers.
    Also diaspora is giving it's source code away fro free? Why would anyone do that? Furthermore, what is it? I will do my research.
     
    occultfish, Apr 16, 2013 IP
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    kingofdollars Well-Known Member

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    #26
    Well, as u said if you take two years to develope then I think something similar to your idea will go live before yours
     
    kingofdollars, Apr 16, 2013 IP
  7. occultfish

    occultfish Member

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    #27
    But I already have the cthulhu portal :p
     
    occultfish, Apr 18, 2013 IP
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    vangel Active Member

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    #28
    cthulhu portal? pls share :D
     
    vangel, Apr 20, 2013 IP
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    #29
    Nice thread title btw.

    here is a step by step of becoming millionaires ( in a real non sarcastic sense) suited for your particular situation.

    1- take a look at digitalpoint - try to see what are the works that are being bought.

    people are buying it because - 1 they have a problem doing it themselves.

    2- find solution to it,

    make $$ lots of it.

    3- IF you dont' have ideas on how to be millionaire? - just ask me, i got tons of them. i even have tried to implement some ;) someday.... one of them just might prove to be my facebook.

    regards
     
    competent123, Apr 24, 2013 IP
  10. occultfish

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    #30
    Cthulhu Portal -_-
    http://theorderoftheironphoenix.com/cthulhuportal/en/
    Join and test, but remember this is a very limited "noob" project, it has capabilities for an ajax facebook style peer to peer chat (fully functional but takes too many resources) , Im developing it, but it's on a shared server with no ffmpeg -_- I really don't have much money for a server ;(
     
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    occultfish, Apr 26, 2013 IP
  11. occultfish

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    #31
    Look above :p
     
    occultfish, Apr 28, 2013 IP
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    #32
    I believe tumblr has already created what you're dreaming of.. I would suggest you to come up with different idea.
     
    trigshady, Apr 28, 2013 IP
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    #33
    No , no , tumblr does not encourage people to share their work with the world, nor does it have its own advertising system , classified ads, forums , or anything other than just "sharing links" and smalltime blogging. My idea will be drastically different, trust me. Think... Deviantart, but with 1000 times the functionality :) Unlike spammy looking meme generators, we want that classic website feel (easier said than done) that will keep people motivated to stay on our website.
    Websites like Icanhas.cheezburger.com/lolcats (which I love) have the idea of content that is user driven down, but the amount of ads and images make it hard to enjoy, not to mention it's really a link/meme sharing website.
    We do want something more like ... maybe digitalpoint, as far as a simple, easy to navigate design. But we want to keep the content and commentary VERY prominent.
    In a world where anyone can set up a website, perhaps functionality has become second to appearance [sort of].
     
    occultfish, Apr 29, 2013 IP
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    caheomap Greenhorn

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    #34
    Did they reply to you yet? you know the core is free right you can download and start playing with it now and you can even develop your own plugins for it.
     
    caheomap, May 4, 2013 IP
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    #35
    Playing with it, they said the project would be around 12,000 dollars through an assessor. That is a bit too much for a college student that made only 17,000 last year -_-
     
    occultfish, May 5, 2013 IP
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    #36
    Cthulhu portal has been redesigned. If I make something like this , but with a facebook/twitter style newsfeed , what do you think would happen? Please evaluate the link :)
     
    occultfish, Jul 23, 2013 IP
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    #37
    My views about your project and how your posting on this thread. Before I start this, it is for the purpose of constructive criticism.

    First when you say you want to be original and unique, you can't start saying build a site like deviant art. This is contradicting statement. I can agree that it can be inspired upon. But leave out originality statements.

    Second people that have money to build it will not invest in a wannabee. Who are you, what are your credentials, can you understand the different between an apple and a pear?

    Your very ambitious and never ever give up with that mentality. It's very healthy but be warned for failure.

    Failure is not failure, failure is a learning curve to open new doors.

    Last but not least, never ever share your ideas in public as little or as big as they are. If somebody sees potential in your idea they will have started building it yesterday before you have even started planning.

    Start small and expand is my advice! Start with a penny than add a pound!
     
    EmmanuelFlossie, Jul 24, 2013 IP
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    Ok, so the cthulhu portal is basically like a test to see how I can integrate various features and make them seem fully integrated. The majority of the project is based on script that I did not code , however it is like a "prototype alpha stage I/ like 10 alpha stages ,10 beta stages and 20 pre-release stages". All together, it has a gross yearly income of -100$ with no profits whatsoever and it was banned from adsence (something about not allowing me to post news involving sexual objects). However, I have implemented my own ad system and I will continue to experiment with my findings over the next two years.
    I have a decent amount of time to learn about and mold my website to public desire. Technically , the website lacks many things and is run poorly (therefore it only has about 20 inactive members).
    Based on my research until I finish college in 2016, I will either keep developing this website or I will start one from scratch. Thank you all for your input :)
     
    occultfish, Jun 8, 2014 IP
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    #39
    I like the idea. Seems a cool project. But I consider it a little too general. I mean, you can do anything there, which is cool of course, but you'll have to work a lot to make any single part exceptional, since you'll face the competition of specialised websites.