Insane Thug Cops Attack Emergency Paramedic

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by Unknown03, May 28, 2009.

  1. #1
    This is un-$%*(-believable. I would usually write some long copy explaining my opinion, but right now I'm just too pissed.

    From Infowars.com


    Source: http://www.infowars.com/insane-thug-cops-attack-emergency-paramedic/

    Video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KluItc365hU&feature=player_embedded

     
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  2. stOx

    stOx Notable Member

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    To thick to get a job at Mcdonalds? To much of a coward to join the army?
    be a cop and live out your high school bully fantasies!
     
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    mohamedd Active Member

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    I don't think its fair to say that about every cop. But there are a lot who seem to get drunk with their power.
     
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    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    #4
    All across the country, police officers risk their lives to protect and serve the community in which they live. Alex Jones doesn't even have the facts, but he's fully ready to place the blame on the police officer, and make outlandish claims. The entire incident was recorded on dash cam video, and the paramedic allegedly assaulted the trooper first. If the police officer seems a little angry, maybe that's why? It looks like it will be the paramedic facing criminal charges, and not the police officer.
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    This "well he started it" thing is irrelivant Rebecca because stopping an ambulance which is taking someone to hospital is irresponsible, despicable and the antithesis of protecting and serving the community.
     
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  6. Rebecca

    Rebecca Prominent Member

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    I understand what you're saying, but we don't have all the facts.

    Were the emergency lights flashing when the police stopped the ambulance?
    Did the police even know they were transporting a patient?

    The police stopped the ambulance for failing to yield:
    Technically, an ambulance or fire truck has right of way over police vehice in emergency situation. Was this an emergency situation and were lights flashing?

    This could have happened...

    Police may have decided to stop them for failing to yield, without even being aware at initial stop that they were transporting. Paramedic has an attitude, and they start to argue. Paramedic assaults officer, things get a little crazy.

    OR

    The police officer is just a stupid egotistical jerk and thinks it's a good idea to stop ambulances when they are transporting patients to the hospital.


    One thing I wonder, is...

    How much of an emergency was this, when the patients son thought it was so much more important to film the altercation, rather than see how his mom was doing in the ambulance?
     
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    stOx Notable Member

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    If there was a reason to stop the ambulance the police should have exercised some common sense, took the number and followed it up later at a more appropriate time. The seriousness of the patients condition is irrelivant because that isn't a call the police are entitled, or qualified, to make.
     
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  8. Unknown03

    Unknown03 Peon

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    And all across the country people make up excuses for the criminal behavior of police officers. We live in a time where the police are no longer "peace" officers, but rather "law enforcers." These officers just misrepresented GOOD cops and smeared their names yet again in another outrageous attempt to condition the public to accept their oppression or face criminal charges.

    Regardless of any ALLEGED misconduct of "who started it," the officer has a professional responsibility to not let his "anger" or emotions override his judgment and conflict with his duty, and has just proven that he is not fit to wear a badge and walk around with the capability of lethal force by letting his anger get the best of him.

    This officer is obviously on a power trip, but that gives him NO right to grab this EMT by the throat just for mouthing off; while the EMT just has to sit there and take it or else be charged with assault for removing the blood choke. I don't supposed just because officers are always in danger that gives them the right to kick suspects in the face while they are surrendering and on the ground too?

    What kind of officer who has their head on straight would sit there and say to his partner, "LETS PULL OVER THIS AMBULANCE FOR NOT YIELDING!!"??? What could possibly be going through this guys mind, especially when they are in the middle of transport?

    These people are delusional. My brother was on a call with another officer who was going to take a homeless man to jail because he was in the middle of a park one night picking up change to buy food, and almost got into a physical altercation with his partner over the sheer nonsense of the situation.

    If the stop was legit AT ALL, the EMT who allegedly "assaulted" the officer would be going to jail. But you DID notice that he was never arrested even when the trooper said he would be? My guess is there was nothing on his dash-cam that would stick in court.
     
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  9. Obamanation

    Obamanation Well-Known Member

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    "To protect and serve".... HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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    If any one is interested, here is the paramedics side of the story. (pdf file)

    It does make this police officer look pretty bad. There are always two sides to a story though, and I wish I could find a similar statement by the officer. Unknown: "that gives him NO right to grab this EMT by the throat just for mouthing off" I understand what your saying, but I still think there is more to the story. I believe the paramedic resisted arrest and elbowed the officer before the choking.

    But yeah, I read the paramedics statement, and if true, and officer does not have good explanation for his actions, then we would probably all be safer if he were put on desk duty.:)
     
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    hostlonestar Peon

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    Ok, first of all unknown, you don't know the facts of this case, and therfor you have no basis to make an opinion.

    The police in America are trained in a way that is approved by the supreme court to meet resistance and violance with a step up of force. You say something about them tazing people. The use of the tazer is a preferable way to end resistance. It is better than going hands on with a subject. It lessens the liklihood of injury to either the officer and the criminal.

    You don't know what it is like to ride around the streets everyday dealing with the scum of society on a daily basis.

    You don't know what it takes to survive and go home to your family on a daily basis.

    And you are probably the type of person that will call the police for everything.

    I'm not saying the beating was right or wrong. I'm saying your opinion is not based on fact, as you do not know all the facts surrounding the case.

    And a police officer is perfectly within their right to pull over an ambulance for breaking a traffic law. As a matter of fact this is something provided for by statute, as all emergency vehicles are just like regular vehicles except in instances where emergency lights and sirens are used. If they were not used than it is just like any vehicle on the road. When the officer initiated the stop he was doing what he is granted the authority to do with state laws. Just because there is a person in the back does not mean they can disregard traffic laws. The law requires you yield to emergency vehicles when they have their lights and sirens. Obviously this ambulance didn't do it.

    As I said, I don' tknow whether this was a justifiable use of force or not, but, then again, neither do you.
     
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    The FACT is the ambulance was taking someone to hospital and the police would have know that, even if they found out after they stopped it. To then arrest the paramedic which was dealing with a patient is frankly obscene and something you should be ashamed of defending.

    Like i said, if there was just cause for further action the police should have followed the ambulance to the hospital and dealt with the matter then.

    But like usual they decide to protect and serve their own ego, not the people who pay their wages.
     
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  13. Unknown03

    Unknown03 Peon

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    I am perfectly within my rights to make an opinion whether or not I was present to witness the facts. If you want to play this game, you don't know the facts either, therefore you have no basis to make an opinion about MY opinion.

    I've never said anything about tazing people.

    I survived two (2) tours Iraq in the Marine Corps, don't you tell me I don't know what its like to ride around everyday not knowing if I'll ever make it home. I doubt you would have 1/100th of the capacity to survive over there.

    I would've expected such a useless statement like that from Obamanation. Again, you have no basis to make an opinion.

    Exactly how much evidence do we need in order to make an opinion, hostlonestar? Half of my entire family is in law enforcement and this kind of thing is COMMON. I've even hung out with the officers that do this kind of shit at BBQ's AND THEY THINK ITS FUN. Theres a reason why COPS only have COP friends. And theres a reason why cops hate the public, and the public hates the cops, its a relationship that doesn't go to hell just by accident.

    The evidence that we DO have is not only testimony from the EMT, but also eye witnesses AND VIDEO. Actions speak louder than words, my friend. And until they are willing to release the dash-cam video I will NOT take their word for it. Continue making excuses for not only the cops, but the government as well... Cuz they love us.
     
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    Don't try to play the "I survived 2 tours in the USMC" game with me lol. I have been deployed for 3 1/2 years. 2 tours to Iraq, one to Afghanistan. We don't do the 6 month game like you guys either :D At least you served though, better than we can say for some people here I've been shot, blown up multiple times, and held friends hands while they died. Good try though :D

    I said you don't know all the facts so you can't base an opinion on the incident. That is plain and simple. I was in law enforcement as well as serving in the Army. I have never met a single cop that is like this. Maybe it is differant in texas? My uncle is a cop in a big city in Fl as well. I don't know a single one of them that is like that either.

    The public hates cops because cops arrest them. Plain and simple.

    I'm saying, there is always more to the story than what the criminal says.
     
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    What criminal? You aren't making a judgment on his innocence without knowing "all the facts" are you?

    the facts we do know are these;
    1. The ambulance was carrying a patient to hospital
    2. The policeboy arrested the paramedic.

    Now, Given that those two claims are facts, would you like to explain how the policeboy's actions are justified when he could have quite easily followed up any trivial traffic violation at a later more appropriate time.
     
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  16. Unknown03

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    Then you can understand how infuriating it can be when someone who doesn't know you claims you're some pansy who calls the cops for scraping your knee on the sidewalk. I've been stabbed, scathed, almost blown up, played catch with some shrapnel, and almost committed fratricide on multiple occasions.

    Two of my uncles, my brother, my father, and my grandfather were all cops. Things must be alot different here in California, as the departments across the state are hiring these jackboot tyrants. Granted these types of officers seem to only be in the city, not where I live, and they do the department a disservice. There are more good cops than bad ones, but the bad ones make sure the public is aware of their presence.

    Speaking of tazing, my brothers partner would unnecessarily taze people over INFRACTIONS, not misdemeanors, so much that they stuck him in the court house.

    The public hates cops because of troopers like this who exercise absolutely NO discretion.

    You said you were in law enforcement, how did you pass the psych after serving in the army? ;)

    Anyways,
    Because of this officers inability to extend any kind of professional courtesy whatsoever, HIS PAST HISTORY OF PULLING OVER AMBULANCES, and his criminal gestapo-like tactics, I can only say that when officer 606 makes the "officer down" call after being shot -- the EMT exercises the same discretion and takes his sweet time to get to the scene.
     
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    I must correct you, the tyrant officer did not arrest the paramedic. HE HAS YET TO EVEN BE CHARGED.

    So, don't criminals get arrested??? This leads me to believe that the officer doesn't have a leg to stand on in any court, and was just drunk with power
     
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    Excuse me for pointing out you seem to have a chip on your shoulder. Are you sure you aren't a police officer? All the discussion about the number of family members you have who are police officers and the hatred you seem to have for the police makes me think you hate your family. Is there anything else to be drawn from that?


    All of my statements have use, unless they don't.


    On this we can agree. Now tell me, is that a useless statement?
     
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  19. Unknown03

    Unknown03 Peon

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    I don't have anything against my family as I love them very much. However, I do have something against cops like this who have a disregard for not only peoples rights, but common sense in general as they shit on the names of officers who genuinely want to "protect and serve"

    Indeed it is :D

    Just saw this little clip, I can't wait to hear another argument about how hard the cops lives are to justify their disdain for all reason - regardless of that criminal scum alqeda woman terrorist.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lDUzozPEEsU&feature=player_embedded
     
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    I understand and I apalogize :D

    Personally, I think this cop is an asshat, although he does have the authority to be a dick like he was, just like with the DFW cop and the football player, discretion plays a lot of weight when making a decision. Some cops aren't ment to be cops, but, for a while they had to lower the standards because they weren't getting enough people, and jus tlike the army allowing felons in the army, its backfiring on them, and many other departments nation wide.

    I hate asshats. lol

    stox, your a freaking moron, quit trolling jesus.
     
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