Insane McCain and his crystal ball. Most Troops Will Be Home by 2013

I did it because you were around and know how much you like to use this personal grievance to draw attention to yourself. See how kind I am?

Thanks for not letting me down.

I've been away for a while, but how's your buds doing in Lebanon?

 

I don't have a lot of time right now and you seem to be way behind the curve on free thought, but I will try to get you started.

The group that attacked our embassy in Kuwait was the Da'Wa party. Guess who is currently the leadership party in Iraq? Da'Wa. Our allies are the people who attacked our embassy with bombs. Neat hunh?

Newer forensic evidence has shown that the Lusitania likely succumbed to ajn explosion in it's engine room or boiler. You can google this info.

Some historians posit that if we had stayed out of WWI, the Germans would have reached a better solution with the rest of Europe, and not had the Versailles Treaty held over them, which culminated in WWII.

Just some food for thought. There is a new book out on this sort of stuff, check out "Human Smoke"

Right, but instead we teamed up with Stalin, and he murdered millions of people.

Yeah, just like, uhm.. yeah, uhm... Vietnam?

Finishing what we started is nonsense. It nearly destroyed us in Vietnam. As far as the Iraqi police, latest reports have Iraqi units abandoning their posts, running away from civil defense duties.

Iraqi political leaders are terrorists and crooks. The Iraqi people have responded in professional polls, they want the occupation over, and they want their country back. If you really believe in democracy, then you should respect the majority voice of the Iraqi people.

Saddam was our agent through the 70s and 80s. He was a CIA agent before taking power in Iraq with the Baath party. You should do some research on this. We were really pally-wally with him in the 80s.

Isn't this a little melodramatic for a school night? The Lusitania was not blown up by the Germans, they didn't want us in the war. When we went into the wars, they got their asses kicked. Hitler was insane, not retarded.

When you're a little but older, you'll probably know a bit about lying about WMDs, or lying about attacks at the Gulf of Tonkin, or lying about Iranian speedboats, or selling out Pearl Harbor. In the meantime, just chill. Obama mania will come to your town, he will clothe you in welfare, and when he drafts you right out of high school to go "kill sum Ay-rabs", you'll think it's the greatest thing since sliced bread.

 

That was the U.S.S. Maine, which was a large cause of The Spanish-American War...

Ahh...I will ignore that stupid age comment.... Anyway, the Lusitania was sunk in WWI by the Germans, look it up... Oh, and Hitler was in WWII...

That is not true at all... The U.S. were the ones that softened up the Treaty of Versailles... It was Clemenceau, Orlando, and Lloyd George who did the harsh parts of the Treaty, and they criticized Wilson for his 14 points and wanting to "be nice" to the Germans, knowing that a harsh treaty would come back to haunt us... I do agree that the Treaty cause WWII, that is a no brainer... But if the U.S. did not get involved, the war could have been lost, and who knows what else.
Well... I have to go now... I will correct your history comments tomorrow...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RMS_Lusitania
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Treaty_of_Versailles


Oh and about the Stalin thing... In the words of a Chinese proverb: "The enemy of my enemy, is my friend"... Now do you understand the U.S.'s involvements with Russia/Stalin? We needed allies, so guess who we became buddies with? Oh and Italy started of as a Central Power, and then switched to an Allie....

Oh, and History is the only subject I give a damn about, the only thing I looked up with all these posts was the links for ya ...

 

Whos weapons used saddam hussien to kill?

 

No subject change. Just pointing out your obvious lack of respect for reality.

Would you mind putting that picture into the proper context?

 

dont throw trash, u have no clue what ur talking about

"By contrast, Alcolac International, for example, a Maryland company, transported thiodiglycol, a mustard gas precursor, to Iraq. Alcolac was successfully prosecuted for its violations of export control law. The firm pleaded guilty in 1989. A full list of American companies and their involvements in Iraq was provided by The LA Weekly in May 2003.[19]

On 25 May 1994, The U.S. Senate Banking Committee released a report in which it was stated that "pathogenic (meaning 'disease producing'), toxigenic (meaning 'poisonous'), and other biological research materials were exported to Iraq pursuant to application and licensing by the U.S. Department of Commerce." It added: "These exported biological materials were not attenuated or weakened and were capable of reproduction."[20]

The report then detailed 70 shipments (including Bacillus anthracis) from the United States to Iraqi government agencies over three years, concluding "It was later learned that these microorganisms exported by the United States were identical to those the UN inspectors found and recovered from the Iraqi biological warfare program."[21]"

USa was supporting iraq to kill its people ( specialy kurds) and attack neighbors ( in iraq-iran war)

 

I'll just let this statement in all its glory speak for itself...

 

English is not my mother tongue. this discussion is not about English grammar skills.

you unsuccessfully trying to change the subject

just confess you were wrong , no one gonna condemn you.

 

The United States gave March,1992. Britain sold Pralidoxine to Iraq, which can be made into nerve gas. The U.S. sold E Coli and Salmonella to the Iraqi State Company for Drug Industries on August 31, 1987. It is the act that was wrong, and illegal, not the selling of the materials. Yes, the U.S. was still shipping the materials after Saddam Hussein ordered the killing of 5000 men,women, and children. But how is that the U.S.'s fault? I mean sure, we sold it to them, but, THEY are the ones who used it for negative purposes. Hussein was a terrorist, and a dictator... I do agree that we should not have sold the materials to a tyrant... But we made a mistake, and fixed it as best as we could by capturing Saddam, and turning him over, and establishing a democracy where a dictatorship once ruled, and forming a military force of Iraqis where terrorists used to be...

 

I thought we blamed countries such as Iran for supplying weapons to people who use them badly.

So when they do it, they should get blamed.

When we do it, it's a simple mistake.

Got ya

 

It was a mistake... It was a stupid thing to do, we can't go back, but we did stop... Iran continues to supply Iraq with weapons, but DENIES it... They won't stop...

 

Ahh so if they are supplying 'weapons btw that are much, much less deadly' and would stop after some time then it could be a 'mistake' and they would have no blood on their hands.

I get it now

 

your stretching my words... Ok... it was a stupid decision that helped Saddam kill 5000+ people... But the U.S. admit to it... We said that we fucked up... We said "yup, we gave them supplies for nerve gas, and other stuff...". Iran supplies weapons have helped the killing of over 4000+ United States, and 176 British, soldiers, and the wounding of 29,780 Americans, and 300 British... But they deny it... Kids are running around with AK-47s over there... We have blood on our HANDS... But Iran is drenched in it...

 

Actually the WMD killed much more than any 'possible' deaths in Iraq that Iran had a hand in, as Iraq surely had plenty of weapons in the first place.

Plus Iraq is fighting occupation, we helped a mad man gas his own people, which is worse to you? IMO it's obvious which one is worse.

Iran is not the only example, I am not twisting anything, you however as many on here are blind to the 'it's ok or different when we do it mantra'

 

I did not say it was ok! 5000 people died! That is never ok in my opinion! I am saying that we fucked up! We supplied the weapons to kill 5000 people... BUT we admitted to the whole world that we did it, we helped kill 5000 people! But IRAN is involved in the dead of 4000+ US soldiers! Plus 26,000+ injuries! That is only AMERICA's death toll! Whether or not they supplied every bullet and every gun in Iraq, they still will not admit to it! They deny it and will continue to supply weapons...

 

Oh so if they admit it then it would be ok 'a mistake'

You truly are not making any sense

With your 'cough' logic, then I guess we are guilty of every death in Iraq caused by WMD or not while we supported Saddam and after as we helped keep him in power. Wow do we have the blood on our hands.

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With your same logic we are guilty of all the deaths happening now as well, as if we did not help get him in power/keep him there, we would not have needed to take him out.

 

so their was no weapon in iraq before and its all iranian weapon that kill and wound those soldiers?

Remember some years ago iraq had one of the largest and most advance army in the world.


listen kid u have to study a lil bit history before throwing something out.

 

You skipped that part...

 

There is enough weapon ( klashnikov, anti tank mines, anti personal mines, rpg rockets etc.. ) for iraqi people to fight occupation for decades inside iraq.

the Iraqi republican guard was highly trained by western generals and experts.

I dont think they need iranian weapons to fight occupiers.

imagine now cuba occupy USA and then it condemn after years the mexico for providing weapon to US people to fight cuban occupiers.. in case USA is the largest weapon exporter and producer.

does it make any sense?!

 

Then why do they buy them?