Indians, please fix your country.

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by MrPoloShirt, Jan 5, 2007.

  1. sarathy

    sarathy Peon

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    #161
    Every religion has its shame, Everything that is man made cant be 100% pure, that includes religion.,

    You feeling shameful of caste system is not going to do any good., Who are you to feel shame, That does not make one a good person is it?
    Either we should try to correct it like : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Subramanya_Bharathy
    or should try to live with it.,

    I feel that hinduism is the best in my opinion (eliminating the caste system), It has passed through thousands of years of filteration unlike the new religions, so there is a chance of some people misguiding its purity in between,
     
    sarathy, Aug 3, 2007 IP
  2. Lexiseek

    Lexiseek Banned

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    #162
    All the troubles come from thinking your religion is "best." It's easy to attack people when you think you're better than they are.
     
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  3. Idiot Inside

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    #163
    Just a side note, Islam has not defined any caste system like there is one in Hinduism (Brahmins, kashatriyas, Vaishya and Shudra).

    Muslim does have denominations like Sunni, Shia etc. these are not castes but religious sub-groups with slightly different beliefs, they don't have different social status like in Hinduism.

    Above all, these denominations are merely created by Muslims themselves but it is very strictly prohibited by Islam in Holy Quran.

    So, in one line .. Islam do not allow any type caste or denomination thing.
     
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  4. leandar

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    #164
    Same from Hindu "Veda" is not allow any cast system.

    Yes in Hindu only some people were created Cast their self Just for their own personal activity's.
     
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  5. Idiot Inside

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    #165


    From: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Varnas


    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinduism


    So, Varnas or caste system is not just a social thing and created by Hindus themselves, It has something to do with the Hindu religion.
     
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  6. leandar

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    #166
    Yes "Veda" said about the cast system but its not via BORN cast determine through his KARMA thats what in in Veda.
     
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    #167
    Are we talking American Indians or Indian Indians? If it's later, they seem to be doing fairly well. Not bombing other countries, not inflating their currency as much, not passing bill to spy after their own people without court warrant...
     
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  8. Idiot Inside

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    #168
    Born or dead, Karma or not. Caste system is a part of Hindu religion not just society.

    Let me tell you what caste system is part of Indian society. Some of the castes are Rajput, Jatt, Gujjar, Arora, Chamar etc etc -- But other four castes Brahmin, Kshatriya, Vaishya, Shudra are the part of religion.
     
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  9. Lexiseek

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    #169
    You honestly didn't figure that out in the first 150+ posts?
     
    Lexiseek, Aug 5, 2007 IP
  10. SuviCyriacNadakuzhackal

    SuviCyriacNadakuzhackal Well-Known Member

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    #170
    Just look at Darfur and you know the fallacy of that statement. Muslims killing fellow muslims for belonging to a different caste or race.
     
  11. Idiot Inside

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    #171
    When I said they are not killing? Not only in Darfur it also happens in Iraq.

    What I said is that "Islam has not defined any caste system like there is one in Hinduism (Brahmins, kashatriyas, Vaishya and Shudra)" Preiod.

    I also said, "Muslim does have denominations like Sunni, Shia etc. these are not castes but religious sub-groups with slightly different beliefs, they don't have different social status like in Hinduism."

    I also said, "Above all, these denominations are merely created by Muslims themselves but it is very strictly prohibited by Islam in Holy Quran."

    And these both lines are in what you quoted. If you actually read the posts and stop quoting just after reading half line, this will sure happen.

    Seriously, did you actually read my post? What point you were not agreed with? :)
     
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  12. sarathy

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    #172
    Hinduism never defined caste system, there was nothing called as hinduism before 2000 years., Hinduism has no known founder
    But there was caste system for hundreds of thousands of years (from the day of God rama),
     
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    #173
    I didn't see it discussed. Maybe I missed it
     
    demosfen, Aug 6, 2007 IP