INDIA & CHINA are CAUSING world food crisis.... !!!

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  1. ahkip

    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #121
    that's because the standard is different. A normal people in US is consider fat in other country. And a fat people in US is a obese one in other country

    There are just too many fat ppl here so you think a guy that is out of shape being normal.

    and read this for why many immigrant gain weight after they move to US

    http://www.cnn.com/2007/HEALTH/diet.fitness/09/05/kd.adrians.story/
     
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    #122
    Ahkip thats not my point. Is what im saying everyone in America is a immigrant every single one of us. Theres alot of people who exercise here to. I've been to New York its not to popular there with older people. But here in Las vegas we have maybe 100+ gyms. The one down the street has over 200+ cars 24/7. What about the beaches of America? You will see at least 80 percent Super buff or very fit people. Just like in Vegas. Also, not all people are fat because they eat. My girlfriend is chubby. But here family only eats healthy food. She goes to yoga 3 times a week. She also works out at the gym. She use to be in water polo, kick boxing. Here mom does the same. But shes very fit! Like so fit she would kick my .... no joke shes a very good kick boxer.
     
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    #123
    Aha...so because many people have big belly in Africa (but they are skinny) that means this should be the norm??

    You should really visit America...not just NY...NY doesn't mean you have seen the whole America...
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #124
    You miss my point too. Gym is where healthy and fit ppl hang out, so do the beach. You go to those place, you see fit people

    when you go place that serve unhealthy food, you are more likely see fat ppl

    and NYC, Vegas and LA are like the three fittest city in US (and have the most number of anorexic;)). When you go to place down south like Texas, it is just slower and fatter:D
     
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    ahkip Prominent Member

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    #125
    it is a norm in Africa, but when he come to US, ppl will said, "omfg why you have a tummy, but you are so skinny, what happen to you"

    and a out of shape guy in US is normal, but in other country he became fat because most ppl are thinner
     
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  6. mg1313

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    #126
    Phoenix is fit too :)...you missed that...

    And when you go to the gym you don't see only fit people! I don't know where have you seen that...maybe in the olympic gym...

    In most if the fitness rooms are regular people...if they stay long enough to the gym they become fit...but at the beggining many are not fit...in the gym could be also those people you seen in the place they serve unhealthy food...
     
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    #127
    well what american farmer sows, majority of that goes into the hands of Asian countries....and hence $$$$$ into the hands of americans......:rolleyes:
    anyways....this ailing earth desperately needs population stabalisation:(
     
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    #128
    Yeah...like a full scale global war :)?
     
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    #129
    THIS IS TO CLEAR SOME POINTS​

    """""You don't kow which foreign high-tech companies are in your country ? Probably you don't know a lot about your country...

    I'll mention several for you: Google, Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard, Texas Instruments, Cisco, Intel, Sun, Motorola (all based in Bangalore), IBM (Delhi)...aren't these high tech companies?

    It's true that there are big indian companies like Tata consulting, Wipro and Infosys...but so far they were just service providers...probably now they start to do some more than just providing services...but that won't happen overnight and those american companies aren't just gonna watch...

    Yes, India is a big market, no one says it's not...that's why most probably american companies won't pull out (like they won't pullout from China)...and that's why indian companies will have to compete fiercely to get a market share...""""""

    You said that Idia will be in trouble if these companies pull out. And now it seems you are saying that these companies does not have the guts to do so.

    Google pulling out is not gonna do any harm.
    The price of Microsoft products is so high in Indian currency is so high that most use pirated ones. If MS pull out they will loose the market they get by selling legal version at the govt offices. Govt will shift to linux as its free and good enough to do office work.
    As you know that hareware can not be pirated an 90% India runs on Intel. If they pull out their shareholders will kill them.
    HP, IBM are good but still 60% of computers in India are assembelled and it won't be any problem at all. Moreover they cost double of waht the same thing costs when assembelled.
    Motorola does not have a huge share in Market. Nothing will happen if it goes away. There are so many companiesd out these.

    And with the companies you mentioned, there is a company called Amar PC which is grabbing a share of the market. And in India branded PCs are far less. And most of them go for Govt purposes.

    Yes, maybe we will ahve little problems if they all pull off but in somedays all will settle down.

    And what will your companies do if our Govt imposes ban on commercial activities by US companies? Thats why US does not go too far with interfering in our country matters like it does in other countries.


    """""""US companies won't retreat from indian market...because US economy will get better...it's just a crisis as it was before...and US economy recovered after a while...maybe you don't have such crisis because you don't have an established market economy (don't forget about India experimenting with communism...which was a failure).

    You know what some people say?

    That Romanians (from eastern Europe) are more talented than indians when it comes to software - good education...better english - no offense but when you listen to an indian from India who speaks english is like listening a broken radio: you have to concentrate to understand what they speak...more close western values, more work ethics)...many US companies took this as alternative to you: they opened branches in Romania.""""""

    I know US companies will not go away on their own as they can not afford the loss. I hope US economy gets well.
    You wanna have an idea how much pofit your company have.1 500ml Pepsi costs 50cents. But the production cost in India is around 10 cents. So, 40cents multiplied the crores and crores it sells every year. You get the idea. Is a 400% profit a healthy thing. And you don't even maintain the intertnational quality standards.:(

    You said it right that most Indian will sound faulty to you. But do know that you people cannot pronounce everything. There are many sounds you cannot pronounce. And the way we pronounce sounds a bit halting but the pronounciatin is clear and not handicapped pronounciation (no offence but its true that you cannot pronounce every sound. See how that Brits pronounced Inian words when they were here) like you. And I cannot give example because those sounds cannot be shown by english letters.:p

    We have to learn our mother tounge, our country language and also English. And people in the metros are quie proficient in all of these. And you are making fun that Indian cannot speak English. Maybe we don't have an accent similar to you but thats not anyones fault. Your English seems very disturbing to us without proper pronounciation. Try to learn an Indian language and make these fun of us when you can speak any of our languages. You won't be able to pronounce a word at first.:p

    And someone said Indians cannot even pronounce computer. Has he lost his mind? Better see before ou speak man.:mad:
     
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    #130
    I am an Indian and I have never visited US before but have lots of relatives there so can very well say about 'things' there and here.

    - Though India is a growing economy and it is NOT a poor country now like before but it sure is NOT 4th or 5th biggest country in the world as said by someone here. It ranks 13th in the world.

    - The issue of India prospering is little BLOWN OUT OF PROPORTION by Indian Media is what I feel. Yes is sure is progressing but certainly NOT at the rate Media is showing it.

    - Having only High-Tech companies doesn't mean that one is developed. We are NOT at all independent in ANYTHING that we consume. We export from Oil, gains, electronic stuffs etc.

    - Our education system really $ucks (yes including those IIT's I am saying) which people always say they are the best institutes in the world. Which is all $hit again. IT features no where in top 100. Check these pages:
    http://www.webometrics.info/top4000.asp
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/THES_-_QS_World_University_Rankings
    Moreover with the reservation issue I think is will $uck more now..

    - Earlier I also thought Bush's statement to be wierd but later understood it's 'real' meaning. He never meant that Indians and Chinese consume MORE than US. But their SUDDEN INCREASE is diet is causing food shortage in the world. US Citizens used to consume the same earlier and now also. It's WE who started this trouble. People who say they are wrong in consuming so much more when the world is hungry please stay out. It's WE who started all of this suddenly without giving any time to our governments and the world to increase food production.

    - If India bans US for trade in India, more than US, India will suffer from it. We are NOT an independent economy. Also banning trade means no exports to US (the largest consumer in the world) and hence it means HUGE trade deficits to India.

    - Dollar weakening is NOT what is caused by INDIA's development. It is due to US economy in recession. So please don't say that dollar's value is depreciating only because of India's progress. Had this been the case it would NOT have been depreciating worldwide and INR would be appreciating worldwide. But it's NOT happening.

    - Indian's surely are intelligent people but they are NOT creative which is a MUST I feel. Not only me but even Einstein feel it. "A creative mind is better than an intelligent one - Einstein"

    I can go on writing such for whole day but it's useless. Personally I feel you just can't compare India and US as a country, economy, culture anything. I just pointed out the things which I read in this topic but I myself never compare among these. :)
     
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    #131
    I am also an Indian but I disagree with you in almost MOST of the points. But I am not referring to all those. Just wanted to say that YES Indians can't pronounce 'Computer' Correctly. Some of what I have heard are:

    1. Cam-pu-ter
    2. kom-pu-tor
    3. cum-puu-ter

    Also I am sure there are many versions of Computer than these in india :p
     
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  12. bubaipal

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    #132
    On the fat thin controversy.
    Come on guys, thats the US standard of being fit.
     
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    #133
    I said in military power India is 4th or 5th largest
    1st- US
    2nd- UK
    3rd- China
    4th- Japan
    5th India/Israel/Aus
     
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    #134
    Well yes I agree with this thing then... I thought GDP. Sorry :p
     
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    Amol
    Remember that always what the US pronouce is not right.
    Brits cannot pronounce Rabindranath Thakur so they made Thakur into Tagore. So, you will say Tagore is the right pronounciation? Huh

    And computer is pronounced as KOMP-U-TER and most pronounce it so, not as you mentioned. If you canot say anything good about your own country better not make false allegations.:D
     
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    #136
    Its okay:). My fault I forgot Russia.
     
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    #137
    Sorry, forgot to say good morning all.:)
    Lets start the debate.
     
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    #138
    haha.. I don't understand whether I should take your comment in my favour or agianst coz when you say that British made it 'Tagore' and NOT we then why 'we' still say it that way!!!

    Also, I was talking of the public in general about the computer and NOT all the people. Also note that it's NOT KOMP-U-TER as you said but CUM-PU-TER. Which itself proves my theory :D
     
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    #139
    We speak that way because we have forgot to give importance to our cultures. By the way I say Thakur.

    Also, cum is pronounced as come , pu together as poo,so I kept p and u seperate in the true pronounciation.
    So, you are saying its comepooter. Nice I have to say. But what does it mean?
     
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    #140
    yes that's right.. I meant 'Come' by CUM and that's what it is said. Also PU not only means 'Poo' but also 'Pue' similar to 'due'. You didn't understand what I said coz you are among those 'general' people I referred. (No offence to your knowledge about computers. But this is just regarding language)

    EDIT: Also as you said that always what US pronounces is not right, I agree completely to it. But 'Computer' is a proper noun and given to it by Americans. As far as I understand there is only ONE right way to pronounce a proper noun and that should be very well known to the people who named it! Isn't it true in case of your name too ;)
     
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