India’s failed ballistic missile launch

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  1. Alevoor

    Alevoor Active Member

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    #41
    Let's accept the fact. Technology is only a part of the story, what you need to really strike and win a war is the political will and honest intentions which is unfortunately absent. US troops in Pakistan for whatever reason, is silently watching being bombarded by evils. For all practical reasons, I don't see US going to war against Pakistan in the short to long term, thanks to its so called "strategic necessities", unless it sheds the cold war mind set against Russia and see in it a friend willing to add forces in the fight against terror.
     
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  2. unknownpray

    unknownpray Active Member

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    #42
    My sweet sister you forgot Kashmir in this list of neighbor countries.Kashmir is the basic proof of peaceful india.

    Instead india is very peaceful country he attacked his neighbor country Pakistan 3 times and look at Kashmir how kindly and humbly he's behaving with Kashmir how humbley he's killing the innocent children and and how he's respecting the women you can search you will find 1000 of videos on Kashmir issue.
     
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  3. Helvetii

    Helvetii Notable Member

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    #43
    I actually feel sorry for you since its very unfortunate that your government doesn't give you access to unbiased information and basic education. I feel for you man.
     
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  4. miscsoft

    miscsoft Peon

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    #44
    yes you are right. i also feel for the hundred and thousands of kashmiri pandits who are ethnically cleansed from kashmir by the muslims and the Indian government kept mum. down with the govt.
     
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    sar420 Notable Member

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    #45
    Helvetti "my sweet sister" ROFL :D
     
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  6. Asif1

    Asif1 Peon

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    #46
    India trying its best to bring peace in Kashmir. but what if they had tried to use language of love instead of weapons. maybe Kashmir issue was solved by mutual understanding with kashmiri leaders. its now 63 years since both countries (india and Pakistan) apart. Kashmir issue kept stagnant in these 63 years causing massive blood shed of Kashmirs and Indian army both.

    america is silent because solving the issue is not in its interests.

    who will solve this issue.

    [video=youtube;_mTmQvkseK]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mTmQvkseK[/video]
     
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  7. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #47
    poor baby doesn't even know basic info on what actually is happening :( I can't even think about your IQ levels feel deeply sorry for u - live in the stories of your govt lies...
    plz keep away from pr until u r really ready with facts
     
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  8. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #48
    no.1, America has no business in solving the issue who r they ? Are they some gods r demi-gods whom every one in the world should listen to ?
    no.2 , Weapons are not used the main source to deal with the issues, weapons are used only when there is a break of law. You don't expect the forces to take all the beating and be non-violent. They are humans too and they too get hurt when some one hits them r pelt stones on them.

    until you have the hardline faction of Geelani & co. this issue is not going to be solved any sooner, they are not going to let any solution happen nor they are really interested in a unique solution. Geelani wants to be called as father of Kashmir just like Jinnah for Pakistan and his dreams are never going to be fulfilled, the greed old man

    no one is going to solve the issue, it has to be solved with in the people and the govts.
     
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  9. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #49
    Yeah, Helvetti is about as sweet as a glass of pickle juice.
     
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    Ya that was a good one . Female avatars FTW .
     
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  11. Asif1

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    #51
    i will hearty request you to understand the fact that America can solve Kashmir issue in minutes, because India listen and obey only America. And america dont prove it by words and statements only, he sets practical examples also. one of such example is us Indian civil nuclear agreement on March 2, 2006.

    please accept this truth also, america really dont have any interest in solving the issue no matter what number of innocent Kashmiri die. if you only accept this, i have nothing to say more.






     
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  12. robjones

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    #52
    There is no solution the US could implement in minutes. Influence isnt a magic wand that makes centuries old ethnic and religious rivalries disappear. The only certainty is that in this or any other situation like it there will be criticism if we get involved ("How dare those SOBs butt in!") or criticism if we don't ("Those heartless SOBs don't value {insert religion or ethnicity} lives because we don't have oil").

    That just goes with being a "super-power". If you're gonna get criticized either way, you pick your battles. The parents here aren't universally fond of having their kids blood shed on multiple foreign shores and we sorta have enough on our plate in that realm at the moment without playing cop in yet another venue.

    Historically we don't always do a bang-up job of consistency when it comes to foreign policy (yeah, I know, nobody's ever noticed that), but then the idea that we have unlimited resources is an illusion to start with. If our defense budget was strictly limited to our own defense and our foreign aid (read: "graft") budget was limited to people that didn't hate us, we'd be a helluvalot better off economically.
     
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  13. Asif1

    Asif1 Peon

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    #53
    Alright buddy.. i accepted everything. You gave reference of "those SOBs butt in"

    when it was in interests of america they prepared taliban to destroy Russia. in the movie rambo3 i seen how good and nice taliban's are showed helping Silver staloon to fight with Russian Soldiers. Sylvester Stallone took participation in quite strange but very rough game, where players should throw a dead body of a goat riding horses. , that was maybe to promote cultural sports of taliban. i am ready to accept this lols. but my real question is why talibans are showed so good in the movie. and what about your "those SOBs butt in" reference. what was business of usa with Russia so it helped talibans to destroy it.

    http://bloggingthecasbah.blogspot.com/2010/05/rambo-iii-rambo-joins-taliban.html

    then the mission was accomplished, Russia was distributed in smalls parts. I bet Russia would never forget who was behind talibans in those days.

    then a twist came suddenly. and talibans became Islamic terrorists. wow

    the reason of a war in Afghanistan is told "talibans who dont like girls schooling or educating the females etc" and to rebuild the Afghanistan which will be free of any influence of any Islamic militant group.

    then what happened. anyone know how many schools are built in Afghanistan, we just listen in the papers blood shed news from many years. this is what was fruit of war. i am not taking side of talibans i never like them, but i also dont like any one who shed blood on earth. if it is muslims or america.


    here i again i remember the famous movie of James cameraon "AVTAR" . i will quote the the words of project director(The Villein of the movie): who tells the hero. for what we are here.

    "These people are illiterate and bad we want to educate them, and make them good. we will build school here, etc"

    http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/nilegardiner/100019656/is-avatar-an-attack-on-the-iraq-war/

    sorry i remember another reference but dont wana talk about the oil stuff which was behind the war for nuclear weapons of Saddam Hussein...

    i fear after telling these things i am not liked by many people here. but my friends if i said anything wrong or tried to twist the facts of history. you are free to judge. i am not a politician but a movie lover.


     
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  14. Will.Spencer

    Will.Spencer NetBuilder

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    #54
    Asif:

    Correction: The U.S. worked with Muslims who were resisting the Soviet invasion, but the U.S. did not work with the Taliban. The Taliban emerged during the period of civil war after the Russians left Afghanistan. The Taliban wasn't even formed until 1994.

    The Taliban, with the help of Al Qaeda and Pakistan, succeeded in killing off most of the groups which had fought the Soviet invasion.

    It never ceases to amaze me how ignorant people can be about events which affect all our lives.
     
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  15. Asif1

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    OK man i accept your explanation on taliban and Rambo3. But you will accept those Muslims invade the whole Russia. mean they were in large numbers and now who is taliban and who is what. it remains a question itself.

    but thanks you accepted that"

    your words

    "the U.S. worked with Muslims who were resisting the Soviet invasion"

    i connect my new question to my first post to make it simple.

    why usa helped the soviet invasion and why can't usa peacefully solve Kashmir issue?

    what about your explanation on the "Avtar" movie reference and oil vs nuclear bomb game.

     
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  16. Helvetii

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    #56
    Don't ask will to answer questions or he'll give you a cute nickname :)
     
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  17. miscsoft

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    and who are the muslims the US worked with. it is guys like mulla omar, who later on went to found the taliban.
     
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  18. masterrio

    masterrio Well-Known Member

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    #58
    lol! wth r u talking about :p
    India isn't a dog and America ain't a master to obey master's rule, if India was "obeying" america then we might have signed non-proliferation pack, but did we ? No, America tried to surmount power but failed and later agreed to transfer nuclear technology for the power resources. The other fine example was late 90's under the governance of NDA, where America requested India for land to have their army on ground/base which India rejected and pakistan was ready to pounce on to it.

    We do tend to listen more to western nations not just America, but Britain is also a good friend as well as Russia. Kashmir issue is an internal issue and not an international issue, the hardline elements such as Geelani and pak counterparts are trying to make it an international issue, an issue can be claimed as an international issue only if both countries call it a disputed region. Which India, denies to do so and the remaining countries have no word in it. Almost each country has some or the other dirty politics and they are tend to be poked when then interfere in other's issues.

    The duty of the other countries is to stop these illegal and notorious crimes against any nation by surmounting pressure on a nation like pakistan which is a haven for the terrorists. Till the day ISI and Pak Army are going to stop these notorious acts I don't see India believing in Pak's words - who have made a promise never to keep them
     
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  19. miscsoft

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    #59
    the usa helped the soviet invasion ????? i think you meant y the us helped the mujahedeens againt the soviets. its because they had their own goal. it was a war fought under the umbrella of cold war.

    why the usa meddle in kashmir? neither they have any business/interest but more importantly are the ppl of the region so inapt that for every dam thing they have to seek outside intervention.
     
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  20. miscsoft

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    well except for a smile i have nothing for your ignorance :)
     
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