Well I will only be converted if this new one gets knocked out for the terms. Actually I can see how the first one did happen and it does show PR over N/A. If the duplicate does outrank the original Ill be impressed as I would like to think the original site may also be up in PR and tightly themed. If it knocks it out and it stays out after Google rolls out its upgraded SERPS Ill be disappointed. If it takes the page out of the SERPs totally Im shocked! But Will Googles new algorithms adjust for this? Sweetfunny what do you say will happen soon, will you out rank me for these four phrases or will my page be dropped? How about after Googles upgrade?
Its hard to say really, it would be easier to predict if the PR export just occured to give a better indication of the domains strength. Mine is only a PR3 but predicting a 6 and yours is a 4 possibly going to a 5, and both our articles are linked from the home pages so thats kind of close. Also anchor text plays a big part, so yours could rank for some terms and mine for others.. It doesnt have to be just one or the other ranking for everything i have found when the documents are similary weighted. We will just have to see.
They can definitely be un-banned. http://www.seo.omg-1.com Also see the Duplicate Content Knock Out Challenge
Ok Google has cached my second article, i really should of put it on a new URL it would of been quicker but anyway... I have completely bowled the OP's article out of 1st spot for the article title. Are the Martial Arts still under development Also i'm beating him on this, and his is in 2nd: "Advanced Military Technology In The Martial Arts" A unique string of text in the article in quotes, just like i said would happen. Results 1 which is me, you must click "Repeat the search with ommited results included" link to see the Ops and a few other duplicates which means Google regards my document as the most authorative for that search. "intrinsic in warfare. The word martial means "military." So historically," A search for the Ops Copyright shows me in #4 from 2,470 so the Op is beating me with 3 URL's, however they arn't this article which means my version is beating his version for his Copyright. Copyright 2001-2006 Eastern Edge Promotions I'm also beating the Op on alot of unique strings, however he is still first on some just like i said could happen. Given the crawl rate of my site, Google has probably only encountered and factored 50-60% of the sitewide backlink pages i gave the article, so my results should improve even more over the next week. This ones interesting too, "Martialarm Martial Arts Articles" 1 & 2 is the Op, then 3 & 4 is me and this thread in 5, 6 & 7 So there you have it, your position has nothing to do with who had content indexed first, it's all to do with Authority, Backlinks and Anchor Text. If i hit that page with a few PR5 & 6 backlinks instead of relying on my own domain to float the rankings it would be all over for the Ops content for every term, not just most of them.
hmmmmm Man stop spamming for just nothing all the post you have is having your link url in it. is it necessary.... anyways feedburner is good way or get one pr 7 link You are thr
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You're the only one spreading misinformation, give it up you are wrong.. Duplicate content version is not decided by the age of the document, i've quoted Google confirming what i say but you just won't admit it. I've done the same for a competative term, 120 Million results and the duplicate is ranking first and bringing in between 300-500 visits per day. Makes no difference to the principal, a document is a document and it being a duplicate is determined by the same methods regardless of competition.
120 million pages is not a competitive result. When we look at competition level of a keyword term we are looking at the amount of daily searches done. As far as quoting Google on anything related to organic results....not the best idea to use that as a validation point given that Google spreads propaganda to purposefully fool naive webmasters (you may or may not fall into this category) into conforming to Googles wishes and desires. For instance Google tells people buying and selling links for rankings is wrong.... yet textlinkads.com sells $1,000,000.00s of links per year and ranks at the top of google for keyword terms they are targeting. You believe what you want ....and I'll keep hitting the top positions for truly competitive terms Peace!
You missed the point as I am not trying to be right or wrong. You did something with duplicate content and a 6 or 7 word keyword term that 0 percent of the population would use in a search query. What you have not done is allow the experiment to run full course through a full IBL PR update and full document scoring. If you feel you accomplished something here then by all means pound your chest and proclaim yourself to be the best SEO ever. However till "YOUR" experiment runs full course, I remain disenchanted and retain the ability to debate your findings and evidence or lack there of. Peace
now you can get any website indexed in 24 hours or less if you have some back links pointing to your site and have some quality content on it
Wow old post. Well while this is bumped, what happened was my page outranked the original and obtained a PR5 on the PR update and the original remained at PR3. However i will say Yahoo done a far better job of scoring the original where Google completely failed, Yahoo ranked the original highest on about 75% of the queries and Google didn't. So to reiterate exactly what i said months ago, yes you can completely outrank an original document regardless of which was indexed first, yes you can obtain PR to a duplicate and even obtain a higher PR and no there isn't a course to run.. while ever the duplicate maintains a higher link equity it will rank.