Incorrect revalidation of weight for coop

Discussion in 'Co-op Advertising Network' started by 1001, Feb 19, 2005.

  1. #1
    The coop ads are still on my site like they always were despite my account being zero'd out...

    I revalidated as the warning email suggested and it is back to the weight it was before this message told me my ads had been taken out of rotation because the ads were not found on my site.

    Something is wrong with the coop validation system if it zeros out my account and requires me to revalidate when no changes have been made to the ads (still has 5 in exact same place as before???).

    I am grateful an email was sent, but still shouldn't it go back and give it another try before setting a 43,000 site to 0 weight???

    This zeroing out of weight could trip filters and bring attention when backlinks go from a large number to nothing.

    Can you please let me know what you think?

    Thanks,

    Mike
     
    1001, Feb 19, 2005 IP
  2. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #2
    It takes several days for the links to be pulled from rotation. You are being removed from rotation because there are not links on the page the script is validating, so what should it do, just assume that you have links somewhere?

    Just add the links to the page that doesnt have them and revalidate.
     
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  3. 1001

    1001 Peon

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    schlottke, you did not read my post completely or you would have seen the first line which read:

    "The coop ads are still on my site like they always were".

    Ads have been there for weeks with no changes whatsoever. I have had weight of 43,000 for weeks. Suddenly today I get email saying my ads were gone.

    They were in the same place. The links were there.

    Anyone else with some helpful insight?
     
    1001, Feb 19, 2005 IP
  4. Smyrl

    Smyrl Tomato Republic Staff

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    #4
    Sounds like you either have missed putting ads on a page or Google has a page/pages in its index that no longer exists on your site. If the latter is the case you need to request that Google remove the page fom the index.

    Shannon
     
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  5. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #5
    I read the post- you wouldn't be deactivated if the page actually had up to date ads on the page.

    Look into what Smyrl said, or check to make sure your ad_network file is up to date.


    Post the URL to the site so we can take a closer look- that always makes it easier.
     
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  6. 1001

    1001 Peon

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    Right now I have ads running (as I always did) and my weight is back, but only after I went to the control panel and clicked re-validate.

    I didn't change a thing on my site and my weight is back.

    It was upsetting to see an email that showed it dropped from 43,000 to zero when I never touched the ads on my page and they were there when I checked and now the weight is back.

    Something went wrong during the re-validation process that made them "think" that my pages didn't have ads and they zero'd me out.

    GLITCH.

    I did nothing other than hit "revalidate" and I'm back where I was before they zero'd out my weight.

    Doesn't that seem odd?

    Right now I don't need to do anything.

    What I wanna know is WHY they thought there weren't any ads when they were always there and the site was unchanged.

    As for Google changing it's index - I don't think so - the weight now is exactly what it was BEFORE they zero'd it out.

    I think there is a glitch in the RE-VALIDATION process that caused my site to lose all it's weight.

    If it can happen to me it can happen to you. I think this should be investigated and fixed.

    Oh, and I checked my bandwidth graphs and it doesn't show any server downtime so that can be ruled out.
     
    1001, Feb 19, 2005 IP
  7. a389951l

    a389951l Must Create More Content

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    #7
    I suppose there always could be a glitch. Since the validator on takes a random sample of pages from your site, it is possible to validate and then be invalidated if ads are not on every single page of your site.

    What's the url?
     
    a389951l, Feb 19, 2005 IP
  8. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    #8

    No, it doesnt. One of your pages *didnt* have the ad on it, and when you clicked revalidate it checked and found the ad on a page that *did*. Pretty simple really.

    What is the URL, and maybe we can help you out?
     
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  9. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #9
    I don't think so. I have seen this quite a bit as well. I think it is more of a problem with Google's index showing pages from way the hell back in time that may or may not have had ads, or, just simply do not exist anymore. I see the validator complaining complaining that I do not have ads on pages that do not even exist. Well obviously there are no ads on pages that are no longer around. Anyway, not sure if there is really a way to fix this.
     
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  10. suzigeek

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    #10
    I also get revalidation messages for my sites occasionally. The ads are on EVERY PAGE as I have a php DB generated site and its impossible for it not to be on a page ;)

    I just figure that there was a blip for that millisecond that digitalpoint is validating. So this does happen to people that have ads on every page.
     
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  11. schlottke

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    Interesting- I stand corrected then, havent personally seen anything like this..
     
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  12. petertdavis

    petertdavis Notable Member

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    #12
    It happens on my sites two or three times a week.
     
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  13. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #13
    Sounds like there is an issue. I did not really want to say anything as I thought it was just me. Glad to hear I am not the only one.
     
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  14. kepa

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    #14
    It happens to me once a week or so as well. It happens when it finds a javascript popup image.php that I have for my thousands of products. Naturally, those won't have a link since it's just a picture, but what are you gonna do? All I can do is revalidate and it seems to work itself out. It is a little irritating though.
     
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  15. schlottke

    schlottke Peon

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    Well the pop up is also in the index, which is factoring into your weight so the links either need to be on those pop up pages or they need to be excluded from google.
     
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  16. bobafind

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    #16
    My base weight went from 54,000 to 0 and I got no revalidation email. What's the deal? Can I have my site manually revalidated, or is there a way to find out if any pages in Google don't have the ads?
     
    bobafind, Feb 20, 2005 IP
  17. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #17
    My suggestion is to just check the site once per day and make sure the weight is there. I see this happen regularly as well. I'm not sure what to think of it. I'd like to say there is something wrong, but I really do not know. Only Shawn knows. We've used his software, particularly OG for years and never had a major problem, so I always assume he knows what he is doing and that it works. Perhaps it is just cosmetic?
     
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  18. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #18
    Ok, I just checked myself and the "base" was at zero. Had to re-validate and it complained. Re-validated again and it was back. Something's up. Not too a big a deal to me as (1) it's free, and (2) it is not a big deal to go in an check it once a day to make sure it is working.
     
    Mia, Feb 20, 2005 IP
  19. stephenmunday

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    Smrl could have the answer that G has a dead page in its index and this is the one the validator just picked out randomly.

    If this is the case, be happy you have other "real" pages in the G index. I have been stumped for the last week while I have been displaying the ads faithfully but getting no credit as the pages G had in its index were all dead - or swf :) - and, being in the quicksandbox, I could see no hope of a solution for a while.
     
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  20. bobafind

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    Well, I can't manually revalidate myself - is there a reason I can't?
     
    bobafind, Feb 21, 2005 IP