In honor of a lost P & R brother

Discussion in 'Politics & Religion' started by anthonycea, Jul 16, 2007.

  1. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #281
    As usual, nothing but love and support for terrorism...
     
    Mia, Jul 17, 2007 IP
  2. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #282
    Why not come up with an intelligent argument rather than spending your days name calling?
     
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    WebdevHowto Peon

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    #283
    I couldn't have said it better myself :)
     
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  4. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #284
    I did, including the quote of actual law and an explanation of what it means for American citizens but I can understand that you don't get it. :rolleyes:
     
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  5. Mia

    Mia R.I.P. STEVE JOBS

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    #285
    The trouble is what you quoted had nothing to do with what you are contending. Nice try though. At least you are making an effort. And here I thought you were a waste of oxygen.
     
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  6. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #286
    Too bad the same can not be said about you, you are definitely and absolutely a waste of oxygen. ;)
     
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  7. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #287
    Let me predict your future:

    Very soon you will be declared a pro terrorist or a terrorist by Gtech and his gang. :D
     
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  8. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #288
    So basically you are trying to say that Bush made this law so he can be able to detain anyone from his bed in wee hours and put him behind the bar for indefinite time without any charges or trial or lawer, that too without a reason?

    The Current Administration or any administration?
     
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    WebdevHowto Peon

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    #289
    Considering my military service and love for my country I know I am not a terrorist. If someone chooses to call me that for lack of intelligent debate, that is on them.
     
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    WebdevHowto Peon

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    #290
    gworld was referring to "this administration".
     
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    gworld Prominent Member

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    #291
    Your basic argument is that we don't need laws to protect us since governments never do anything bad and only punish people who deserve it, right? :rolleyes:

    may be you should talk with some of victims of McCarty era persecutions that had their lives ruined, I am sure there are some who are still around. ;)
     
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  12. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #292
    Duh, Talk about avoiding question when you cant answer a simplest one. :rolleyes:
    Here I put it once again.
    Are you a Democrat? (just a question, no pun intended)
     
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  13. gworld

    gworld Prominent Member

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    #293
    The question is loaded and stupid. What do you mean by without a reason? Of course they only arrest people for a "reason" but who is there to judge if that is a valid reason? Is disagreeing with the government a valid reason? Is reading a book a valid reason? Is talking to people who disagree with government a valid reason? That is the reason that there is a Constitution, laws and courts to decide if there is a reason or without a reason.

    Now you can answer my questions:

    Do you believe that U.S. Constitution is important document designed to protect the citizens of USA or just a piece of paper? Do you think that government is never wrong or do you think they can make a mistake? Do you think that Citizens in a democratic society should have rights including the protection of the law and every one is innocent until proved guilty or do you think that people should have no right and government should be able to decide every citizen fate without any courts or defense?
     
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  14. The Webmaster

    The Webmaster IdeasOfOne

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    #294
    So you are saying that bush made this law so he can detain anyone who disagrees with him? Why did he make this law, according to you?



    Constitution is a subject to change, it was written by policy makers, Policy makers made several amendments, so while its important it can be changed.

    There is no government in the world that has done everything just right. So saying a govt. cant make mistakes is ignorant.


    Desperate Times Call for Desperate Measures. Democracy is a beautiful thing but US needs to take some strict steps to secure the lives of citizens and terrorists cant be allowed to use democracy as shield.

    No matter if your eyes deny to see it but I believe they(administration) are doing almost everything that they can do to prevent terrorism while maintaining as much freedom to it's citizen as possible.
     
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    #295
    When the steps involve removing rights and liberties, that men and women have given their lives to defend, something is very wrong.
     
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    #296
    Governments have been known to do this. The same way that a day suddenly doesn't turn to night and it goes through many steps, democracy doesn't turn to dictatorship in a single move.


    There are procedures defined for the changing the Constitution, so if that is what this administration wants to do then they should go through proper procedures.

    glad that you agree. In this case without any courts and lawyers, how do we know that government has arrested the right person and for a valid reason?


    Democracy is not a shield for terrorists, democracy is a shield for the innocents. What is terrorism? The disturbance of democratic process through use of violence. The lack of democracy is the ultimate goal of terrorists and the biggest shield for tyrants. ;)
     
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    #297
    AC got banned again? Haha...
     
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    #298
    With his foul mouth & delusions it's no surprise:p
     
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    #299
    So how long is it for this time I wonder? Quite an entertaining, if somewhat deranged, character.

     
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    #300
    lasted a week this time, which is a lot longer than the 4 hours last time :rolleyes:
     
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