In France, it is now illegal to download

You can be sanctioned without any trial if you download content from the internet. Your internet connection will be disconnected and you will have to prove you're innocent.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lya8_jKX3FE

 

oh, sorry..
In Israel the content owners give it for free (music, shows) on You Tube or their website, so we don't need to download illegaly.

 

The world is changing rapidly as governments scramble to take back control of the Internet...

 

But if you wanted popular music then it costs money, or is illegal to download, like everywhere else in the world.

You left out a word: sanctioned without any trial if you download ILLEGAL content from the internet

 

actually no.. for Israeli music we've got Orange Time (like Hulu) and for American music we've got Youtube.

 

Youtube breaches copyright all the time. Copyrighted music means a fee must be paid to the copyright holders, unless it's royalty free, or it is simply illegal. Just because you downloaded Pink's latest song from Youtube doesn't make it legal unless Youtube owns the copyright, which in most cases it does not.

 

I feel sorry for the isp's. they will lose so much money from it. and really, no one needs more then 2 MB speed if you cant download anything illegal/copyrighted.

 

you can always use NL proxy

 

Sadly this will effect other EU countries and other countries outside of EU too... It is time to move to China

 

Content is automatically copyrighted upon creation of a work. The copyright requires no notice of copyright. In order to use someones copyrighted material youmust have express permission allowing you to do this. Or you can use it under a general license like with software. If the license requires a fee to be paid, you must pay that fee. If you are not granted the rights to distribute the material, you may not distribute it.

Youtube breaks copyright all the time but Google utilizes loopholes to allow them to do things.

 

http://www.piratemyfilm.com/

 

lol nice post

 

LOL, this law should have been voted yesterday but not enough politician were present; therefore this law was postponed

Regards
Thibaut

 

It is very sad for us but it will affect nearby countries.

 

It's been very close but the law has been rejected!
The equivalent of the United States congressional conference committee (known as commission mixte paritaire in France) rejected the law yesterday.
The government promises to get it voted at the end of April as it has the right to propose it a second time, so nothing's won yet.

To reply to all the comments, it's not only about punishing the downloading of illegal content.
This project of law sets that:
- the sentence is applied with no prosecution, so you're guilty until proven innocent
- you have to use a spyware always connected to prove you were not the person/computer/session who downloaded the content (in case of wifi hijacking for instance)

So it goes way beyond illegal content as it creates a huge precedent of the way law can be directly used outside any court, plus all the spying on the citizens.

 

I agree it's a ridiculous proposition and Australia was heading the same way. I would have hoped it was passed and everybody got caught downloading, c'mon we all do it!

As more people are caught and disconnected, more & more users won't be paying their ISP bills and that will simply force the ISPs out of business. Then they would realise how stupid they are for agreeing to it and Australia will be saved from it.

My post above was only to point out it was about ILLEGAL content, not that I was against it. Your thread title makes it sound like you can't download ANY content, which is not correct.

Many ISPs do not want their users sanctioned as it affects their bottom line. We (Australia) are foolishly tinkering with government censorship but so far only a couple of ISPs have agreed to participate in trials to attempt censoring our net access.

ISPs are reluctant to publicize their involvement in our government's censorship trials as once they're discovered agreeing to participate in the trials, their client base suddenly starts falling off haha.

 

Any one use or heard of IPREDator The Pirate Bay product ? They promise not share any information with gov. And they not recording the traffic ...

 

Hi Bushranger,

There's a very thin distinction between illegal and legal content in that law. As the ISP is not going to check what kind of content you're downloading but its volume (no real metric is stated in the law, each ISP would have to find its own), you can be disconnected on a whim. It would be up to you to prove your case afterwards.

I'm thinking for instance about fansub where the content is translated and distributed for free as long as it is not copyrighted in the country, but I guess we could find other examples of borderline/legal content.

The frightening part of this law is the number of hidden sides. Like it states the use of a white list of sites for publicly-accessible wifi. Who will be on that list? According to what criteria?

I heard that New-Zealand tried to pass a similar law (the Guilt Upon Accusation), so it's definitively in the air.

 

I think you'll find that ISP's will be erring on the side of their users no matter what the government decides. As I said their bottom line is to make profit and you don't make profit by disconnecting your users.

 

I believe that websites like YouTube/Veoh should be forced to require credit card authentication for sign-ups to allow prosecution for those who upload illegal content. Websites that do not comply should be shut down.

It will take time for that to happen, as the internet is new-born and will take time to correct itself from the hundreds of mistakes.

Peace,